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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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873 points helsinkiandrew | 7 comments | 25 Sep 25 15:06 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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tiahura ◴[25 Sep 25 15:19 UTC] No.45373783[source]▶
A little more surveillance might have prevented Oct 7.
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michens[dead post] ◴[25 Sep 25 15:26 UTC] No.45373903[source]▶
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HappyPanacea ◴[25 Sep 25 15:29 UTC] No.45373951[source]▶
There is no evidence whatsoever that was false flag attack. I didn't expect such blatant conspiracy theories on HN.
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1. nsriv ◴[25 Sep 25 15:33 UTC] No.45374031[source]▶
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-ma...

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2. Braxton1980 ◴[25 Sep 25 15:42 UTC] No.45374186[source]▶
This isn't evidence of a false flag attack. If I don't change the oil in my car because I'm lazy then my motor seizes I didn't "purposefully destroy my own car"
3. HappyPanacea ◴[25 Sep 25 15:46 UTC] No.45374246[source]▶
These two link are not "government from staging a provocation".
4. dismalaf ◴[25 Sep 25 15:48 UTC] No.45374290[source]▶
Yes, Netanyahu thought that pulling out of Gaza completely, giving them money and allowing them to hold jobs in Israel would improve their economic standing enough to make them docile enough to not attack. He was obviously wrong.

And preferring them to the PLO in the wake of the second intifada was reasonable. All Palestinian groups claim to want to kill all Jews, but at that point in time the PLO had actually done it for decades. For the record, the PLO still has the pay-to-slay program...

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5. dragonwriter ◴[25 Sep 25 15:58 UTC] No.45374440[source]▶
Israel, despite its PR, never actually took its foot off Gaza conpletely, continuing regular unprovoked cross-border killings of civilians within Gaza, among other means of exercising control and preventing economic development and activity (though for preventing economic activity specifically, other means were more significant, mainly the intermittent blockade before 2007 and the full blockade from 2007 on.)
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6. n1b0m ◴[25 Sep 25 16:17 UTC] No.45374752[source]▶
Netanyahu preferred Hamas to the PLO in order to guarantee that no unified Palestinian movement might arise. The way to do that, according to Netanyahu, was to strengthen the Islamist Hamas in Gaza at the expense of its rival, the Fatah-dominated PLO in the West Bank.

“Anyone who wants to prevent the creation of a Palestinian state needs to support strengthening Hamas,” said Netanyahu at a Likud party meeting in 2019. “This is part of our strategy, to divide the Palestinians between those in Gaza and those in Judea and Samaria.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/the-netanyahu-...

7. dismalaf ◴[25 Sep 25 16:46 UTC] No.45375229{3}[source]▶
> unprovoked

Your bias is showing...

"Unprovoked", except the regular rocket attacks and other acts of terrorism.

Israel actually put up with a lot, way more than any other country would, because they had the Iron Dome.