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659 points jolux | 16 comments | | HN request time: 1.571s | source | bottom
1. prh8 ◴[] No.45303731[source]
The only people who believe the world isn’t on fire are the ones with the matches
2. dismalaf ◴[] No.45303773[source]
The American Ruby community...

They tried to cancel Matz for not supporting weird DEI corporate speak in the TOS, they've been trying to cancel DHH for years for his mild conservative lean.

There's also a weird contingent who keep trying to push stuff like TypeScript for Rails and typing for Ruby, at one point they wanted to fork Rails when DHH made Hotwire default (they wanted React), etc..

Outside the weird US corporate bubble, Ruby is doing just fine. Japan, Europe, Canada, etc... Rails World gets bigger and bigger, Ruby Kaigi is growing, etc...

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3. rm808 ◴[] No.45304008[source]
I love seeing where Ruby Kaigi is going. Do you happen to have a link regarding a cancel against Matz? I'm often heads down and am genuinely curious to know more.
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4. dismalaf ◴[] No.45304135{3}[source]
https://github.com/ruby/www.ruby-lang.org/pull/2690

This was the original issue.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28712821

HN thread. Plus lots of Twitter nonsense at the time.

The heat's died down now that COVID is over, changing politics worldwide, etc...

5. jaredcwhite ◴[] No.45304505[source]
A very biased take to be sure. Who is the "they" you are referring to? Who is "the American Ruby community"? Sounds like a thinly-veiled attack on "leftists".

I know plenty of Rubyists in Europe who these days find DHH as a person to be completely odious, not to mention a maintainer in violation of CoC.

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6. dismalaf ◴[] No.45304526{3}[source]
> mention a maintainer in violation of CoC.

Is he a Ruby maintainer? First I've heard of this...

> know plenty of Rubyists in Europe who these days find DHH as a person to be completely odious

Different circles I guess. I live in Europe half the year and most of the Europeans I know are way more right wing than DHH...

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7. JimmaDaRustla ◴[] No.45304722[source]
> mild conservative lean

you're whitewashing that he's racist

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8. caseyohara ◴[] No.45304764{3}[source]
Is he? I use Ruby and Rails, but I don't pay much attention to DHH so this is news to me. Would you mind pointing me to a source for this?
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9. dismalaf ◴[] No.45306315{3}[source]
Do you have a source for this?

Also, do you watch his podcast? His host (who's literally also one of his employees) is a black woman. Not proof he's not racist, but suggests probably not.

Unless you just assume anyone to the right of you equals racist, which lots of leftists do. Which is one of many reasons why the global right is rising...

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10. jaredcwhite ◴[] No.45306803{4}[source]
IMHO he violated the CoC of the Turbo project. FWIW, I'm by no means a TypeScript guy so I was even sympathetic to his general ideas on that topic. But his handling of it was terrible.
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11. dismalaf ◴[] No.45307109{5}[source]
?? Isn't Turbo his own project? Also in the previous comment you mentioned Ruby CoC which has nothing to do with any project that's not the Ruby interpreter/project itself...
12. cjk ◴[] No.45308211{4}[source]
https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
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13. knodi123 ◴[] No.45308257{4}[source]
he's been moaning loudly and histrionically about how london is doomed because there's not enough white natives.
14. dismalaf ◴[] No.45308673{5}[source]
Question: do Palestinians deserve their own country?
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15. prh8 ◴[] No.45310597{6}[source]
Well they had a country until the US and UK stepped in...
16. projectazorian ◴[] No.45310915{4}[source]
He endorsed British far-right agitator “Tommy Robinson” (not his real name) - in the US context this would be like endorsing eg. Nick Fuentes.