At least 475 workers detained in major ICE raid at US Hyundai factory

On-shore manufacturing requires an on-shore workforce. I’m wondering how this will sit with any company that wants to invest in on-shore manufacturing. I mean, what’s the big picture here?

Hyundai is investigating 12.6 billion dollars in Georgia, and the response is to raid the facility and arrest ~500 people working there. How does that benefit Americans? Korea is pumping money into our economy, and we throw the people working there in jail. For what? Working?

If Hyundai's operations keep getting disrupted, they can't justify spending billions here. Other international companies also won't waste their time investing and building infrastructure here. They'll spend it somewhere else. What is pro-American about this? Is the Republican party now anti-money? Anti-capitalism? How is this a win for Americans or Republicans or conservatives or anyone?

Factory workers are easy targets compared with actual criminals. So ICE goes after them to meet their quotas. It could also be that the Hyandai executives weren't contributing enough to the right parties so had to be made an example of. Could be both.

the picture is that these workers must have been in the US under a completly above board legal framework to build out a battery plant and presumably they are a specialised ,experienced work force, under contract, Korea right, one of the most orderly countrys on the planet, rich too, tell them to go home, they go home

so this must be a contrived way to eliminate competition, after all of the contracts were signed. reputational damage to the US is incalculable and a strategic retreat by all other countrys becomes likely these people came with there familys, were detained at work, with there kids comming home from school to no parents full tilt, psycho freak move

Yes the Hyundai president left his gold brick at home

What is so bad about hiring people who are legally allowed to work in the US? Why requiring this would be so disruptive? What is so bad about following the law?

Hyundai might not even have known this was going on and is grateful it was caught. Illegal workers are often hidden behind layers of subcontractors.

So as long as they invest money, they or their workers can break whatever laws they want? They have immunity?

Maybe they forgot to bribe the right people? Did they offer something of gold to the president?

Trump did get a metal turtle ship model made by one "Oh Jeong-chul, a master from HD Hyundai", gifted by Korean president Lee Jae-myung. But maybe Trump forgot that. He's getting old after all, and it was more than a week ago how could we expect him to remember.

> What is so bad about hiring people who are legally allowed to work in the US?

They command market rate wages.

Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45139954

lol. this is like Taiwan arresting the Dutch going there to install lithography machines for tsmc.

the bribe seeking blacks shirts are hitting themselves now.

If they were all working on b1/b2 visas (like actually setting up lines and doing other work and not just training locals) as this source is claiming[0] it’s a clear violation and slam dunk case. They will be deported and barred entry for like 10 years. Also these laws were on the books since forever just hard to enforce unless someone is being completely obvious which seems to be the case here

[0] - https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ice-raid-hyundai-plant-georgia-021...

You can also just do it by the book and get proper l1-b visas or have them performing duties not categorized as work such as training, consulting local staff, etc (not a legal advice). Or you can do what they allegedly did and see where that gets you.

Also if they were cutting corners on this what else did they cut corners on?

Or you know could be that corporate execs blatantly violating immigration laws. They would never, i know

> corporate execs blatantly violating immigration laws

That's the fun part. They all are violating immigration laws. The country is run on cheap immigrate labor. What we are seeing is selective enforcement.

> What we are seeing is selective enforcement.

Doesn't appear to be the case considering all the ICE news lately... On the contrary seems like they're enforcing white-collar immigration laws too now.

Also i'm willing to bet it was a tip off by a pissed off vendor or local union or something.

I see this as one among many deliberate acts of sabotage against the US national interest.

Such trends feed rumors that Trump is a Russian asset.

Right, but my point is that isueing (very embarassing) orders for those workers, to leave, knowing that these workers would have only the vaugest, or no, notion of the laws involved in the contract, as they very likely could not fill out any of the paper work themselves, VS a mass arrest that will likely derail further investment from some of the major allies of the US. The net effect of this and other actions looks something like a modern equivilant of the Chinese "Cultural Revolution", but with an economy vastly more integrated and dependent with the rest of the world, but with no clear policy statement, and edicts bieng issued and revoked on a day to day basis. The US could have told the Korean's , go home, in a soto voice, they would blush, go home, and ask for another chance to do business, that it was 500 workers @ a major new car plant means that they were given some sort of "dont worry about it" verbal assurance, and have been double crossed, which is a game changer.

Probably wasn't kitschy enough

> seems like they're enforcing white-collar immigration laws too now

Are they applying them to equally to corps that are politically connected to, and give big money to Trump?

Yes yes not letting foreign for profit corporations to blatantly break immigration laws to save a few million is exactly like cultural revolution. They totally got double crossed that is the most logical explanation