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ballenf ◴[] No.45039355[source]
Can someone who's worked in an org this large help me understand how this happens? They surely do testing against major browsers and saw the performance issues before releasing. Is there really someone who gave the green light?
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terminalbraid ◴[] No.45039542[source]
As someone who has worked in and with large orgs, the better question is "why does this always happen?". In large organizations "ownership" of a product becomes more nebulous from a product and code standpoint due to churn and a focus on short-sighted goals.

If you put a lot of momentum behind a product with that mentality you get features piled on tech debt, no one gets enthusiastic about paying that down because it was done by some prior team you have no understanding of and it gets in the way of what management wants, which is more features so they can get bonuses.

Speaking up about it gets you shouted down and thrown on a performance improvement plan because you aren't aligned with your capitalist masters.

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1. tk401 ◴[] No.45042328[source]
That the optimization pressure imposed by "capitalist masters" can lead to perverse outcomes does not imply that the optimization pressure imposed by communist ones doesn't, surely?

For instance, the GP could be a proponent of self-management, and the statement would be coherent (an indictment of leaders within capitalism) without supposing anything about communism.

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2. ants_everywhere ◴[] No.45045370[source]
Yet another new account that has only a single comment replying to me. I've noticed this is a pattern.

At any rate your point doesn't make any sense. The same point indicts all leaders, it has nothing to do with capitalism. It's like saying something indicts a specific race of people when it applies to all people equally.

3. guappa ◴[] No.45051574[source]
> Is it your theory that working on large projects was better when you had communist masters?

It is. Unemployment was virtually non-existant in the ussr, and healthcare was not connected to employment status. So a worker there knew that saying no to their boss was not going to be a life-or-death decision. They might of course be less wealthy and so on but the worst case didn't look as bad.

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4. ants_everywhere ◴[] No.45051640[source]
This is false, striking was illegal in the USSR. If you refused to do work you were an enemy of the state.

If your town didn't meet the farming quota they would starve your entire town.

If you went on strike you would get murdered and sometimes your family would get murdered.

If you deserted from the army or retreated you would get shot by barrier troops.

If you were injured or sick you would be disposed of or hidden on an island.

If you were a female orphan under the age of 15 there was something like an 88% chance you'd be used as a prostitute.

The USSR was terrible for workers. Some of this was hidden by lying about statistics, same as it is today with authoritarian countries.

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5. guappa ◴[] No.45061222{3}[source]
Are we talking war time russia or peace time USSR? It seems to me that you are conflating the two.