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jleyank ◴[] No.44611189[source]
It's really depressing how the US system seems to have existed "on belief". Once somebody set out to damage or destroy it, away it went. Pretty much without a whimper.

As I recall, the system was set up with 3 branches of government in tension. Obviously, that was naive.

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guelo ◴[] No.44611372[source]
It's not going away with a whimper, the supreme court is killing it on purpose. There are laws that created departments that the president does not have the power to destroy. There is also the impoundment act that forbid a president from redirecting or not spending appropriated money. These laws are being ignored because the supreme court has gone full partisan.

One study estimates that the Supreme Court will be "conservative" [1] for at least the next 100 years. If Dems don't try to do something to represent 50% of the country that is panicking then they're complicit.

[1] tearing down hundreds of years of precedent is not conservative, this is an extremist court.

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mandeepj ◴[] No.44612616[source]
> One study estimates that the Supreme Court will be "conservative" [1] for at least the next 100 years.

Not really. A party needs 2/3 majority to impeach a judge. There’s a possibility Democrats can have that majority after next midterms. But the problem with Democrats is that they almost always follow laws and aren’t radical lunatics like republicans. Even after last election, HN felt pretty Red leaning, so that stupidity fever caught a lot of otherwise sane people.

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crucialfelix ◴[] No.44612981[source]
Good people follow laws, bad people don't.

That's the core problem. The game is rigged

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nielsbot ◴[] No.44613223[source]
I think it’s rather that good (effective) politicians wield the law and power effectively and creatively. Good people don’t follow bad laws, for example.

The Democrats are not good, but it’s intentional. They work for their donors not their voters.

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1. mandeepj ◴[] No.44617515[source]
> The Democrats are not good

You are commenting on a thread about Republican Party gutting one more scientific research department. But you have audacity to say Democrats are bad. One of the commenters on this thread had described very appropriately the current political environment- mass weaponization of stupidity. Those people are running at a very high speed in the opposite direction that there’s no coming back for them.

> They work for their donors not their voters

Voters are donors too. Maybe you meant big donors like Musk. You know how that turned out.

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2. nielsbot ◴[] No.44618282[source]
Let me clarify.

I’m saying Democrats are ineffective at doing good and are therefore part of the problem.

If the Democrats do not effectively wield power to solve people’s real world (economic) problems the country will slide further to the right.

I obviously meant wealthy donors and corporations (the ownership class) — the minority or entities that the Democrats are beholden to as opposed to the bulk of their voters.