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EPA says it will eliminate its scientific research arm

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258 points anigbrowl | 1 comments | 18 Jul 25 23:00 UTC | HN request time: 0.411s | source
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jleyank ◴[19 Jul 25 00:00 UTC] No.44611189[source]▶
It's really depressing how the US system seems to have existed "on belief". Once somebody set out to damage or destroy it, away it went. Pretty much without a whimper.

As I recall, the system was set up with 3 branches of government in tension. Obviously, that was naive.

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jabjq ◴[19 Jul 25 00:06 UTC] No.44611243[source]▶
The system has existed on the taxpayer. Now the taxpayer has voted to get rid of it.
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ujkhsjkdhf234 ◴[19 Jul 25 00:14 UTC] No.44611285[source]▶
The taxpayer was lied to repeatedly and under the belief of many many many lies, unwittingly voted to get rid of it.
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jabjq ◴[19 Jul 25 00:16 UTC] No.44611293[source]▶
Democracy is good until the public votes for something unpalatable. In that case they were lied to and/or they are unfit to choose for themselves.
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ujkhsjkdhf234 ◴[19 Jul 25 00:18 UTC] No.44611310[source]▶
Are you saying they weren't lied to? Like Trump saying he knew nothing about Project 2025 which was a lie.
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1. nosianu ◴[19 Jul 25 11:10 UTC] No.44614482[source]▶
> Are you saying they weren't lied to?

I think Trump & team have been very open about their intentions. There's even his entire first presidency to look at. At most, some of his voters might be surprised that he actually follows through on exactly what he promised (for example some of those voting for him now surprised about being targeted by ICE, including farmers fearing for their cheap workforce).

So sure, lots of lies, on the other hand and at the same time everything was planned and prepared quite openly.