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ankit219 ◴[] No.44608660[source]
Not just Meta, 40 EU companies urged EU to postpone roll out of the ai act by two years due to it's unclear nature. This code of practice is voluntary and goes beyond what is in the act itself. EU published it in a way to say that there would be less scrutiny if you voluntarily sign up for this code of practice. Meta would anyway face scrutiny on all ends, so does not seem to a plausible case to sign something voluntary.

One of the key aspects of the act is how a model provider is responsible if the downstream partners misuse it in any way. For open source, it's a very hard requirement[1].

> GPAI model providers need to establish reasonable copyright measures to mitigate the risk that a downstream system or application into which a model is integrated generates copyright-infringing outputs, including through avoiding overfitting of their GPAI model. Where a GPAI model is provided to another entity, providers are encouraged to make the conclusion or validity of the contractual provision of the model dependent upon a promise of that entity to take appropriate measures to avoid the repeated generation of output that is identical or recognisably similar to protected works.

[1] https://www.lw.com/en/insights/2024/11/european-commission-r...

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dmix ◴[] No.44610592[source]
Lovely when they try to regulate a burgeoning market before we have any idea what the market is going to look like in a couple years.
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remram ◴[] No.44610676[source]
The whole point of regulating it is to shape what it will look like in a couple of years.
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dmix ◴[] No.44610764[source]
Regulators often barely grasp how current markets function and they are supposed to be futurists now too? Government regulatory interests almost always end up lining up with protecting entrenched interests, so it's essentially asking for a slow moving group of the same mega companies. Which is very much what Europes market looks like today. Stasis and shifting to a stagnating middle.
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1. stuaxo ◴[] No.44612672[source]
The EU is founded on the idea of markets and regulation.
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2. miohtama ◴[] No.44613616[source]
The EU is founded on the idea of useless bureaucracy.

It's not just IT. Ask any EU farmer.

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3. fxtentacle ◴[] No.44613856[source]
Contrary to the constant whining, most of them are actually quite wealthy. And thanks to strong right to repair laws, they can keep using John Deere equipment without paying extortionate licensing fees.
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4. mavhc ◴[] No.44614195{3}[source]
They're wealthy because they were paid for not using their agricultural land, so they cropped down all the trees on parts of their land that they couldn't use, to classify it as agricultural, got paid, and as a side effect caused downstream flooding
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5. pyman ◴[] No.44615314{4}[source]
Just to stay on topic: outside the US there's a general rule of thumb: if Meta is against it, the EU is probably doing something right.
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6. rpdillon ◴[] No.44616471{5}[source]
Well, the topic is really whether or not the EU's regulations are effective at producing desired outcomes. The comment you're responding to is making a strong argument that it isn't. I tend to agree.

There's a certain hubris to applying rules and regulations to a system that you fundamentally don't understand.

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7. pyman ◴[] No.44617382{6}[source]
For those of us outside the US, it's not hard to understand how regulations work. The US acts as a protectionist country, it sets strict rules and pressures other governments to follow them. But at the same time, it promotes free markets, globalisation, and neoliberal values to everyone else.

The moment the EU shows even a small sign of protectionism, the US complains. It's a double standard.