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throwpoaster ◴[] No.44611283[source]
EU is going to add popups to all the LLMs like they did all the websites. :(
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gond ◴[] No.44611775[source]
No, the EU did not do that.

Companies did that and thoughtless website owners, small and large, who decided that it is better to collect arbitrary data, even if they have no capacity to convert it into information.

The solution to get rid of cookie banners, as it was intended, is super simple: only use cookies if absolutely necessary.

It was and is a blatant misuse. The website owners all have a choice: shift the responsibility from themselves to the users and bugger them with endless pop ups, collect the data and don’t give a shit about user experience. Or, just don’t use cookies for a change.

And look which decision they all made.

A few notable examples do exist: https://fabiensanglard.net/ No popups, no banner, nothing. He just don’t collect anything, thus, no need for a cookie banner.

The mistake the EU made was to not foresee the madness used to make these decisions.

I’ll give you that it was an ugly, ugly outcome. :(

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1. shagie ◴[] No.44612155[source]
> The solution to get rid of cookie banners, as it was intended, is super simple: only use cookies if absolutely necessary.

You are absolutely right... Here is the site on europa.eu (the EU version of .gov) that goes into how the GDPR works. https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-topic/data-protection/r...

Right there... "This site uses cookies." Yes, it's a footer rather than a banner. There is no option to reject all cookies (you can accept all cookies or only "necessary" cookies).

Do you have a suggestion for how the GDPR site could implement this differently so that they wouldn't need a cookie footer?

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2. pelorat ◴[] No.44615525[source]
> Do you have a suggestion for how the GDPR site could implement this differently so that they wouldn't need a cookie footer?

Well, it's a information-only website, it has no ads or even a login, so they don't need to use any cookies at all. In fact if you look at the page response in the browser dev tools, there's in fact no cookies on the website, so to be honest they should just delete the cookie banner.

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3. shagie ◴[] No.44616056[source]
At https://commission.europa.eu/cookies-policy_en#thirdpartycoo... you can see the list of 3rd party cookies they use (and are required to notify about it).

     You Tube
     Internet Archive
     Google Maps
     Twitter
     TV1
     Vimeo
     Microsoft
     Facebook
     Google
     LinkedIn
     Livestream
     SoundCloud
     European Parliament
In theory, they could rewrite their site to not require any of those services.