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vanderZwan ◴[] No.44608123[source]
I admit that I am biased enough to immediately expect the AI agreement to be exactly what we need right now if this is how Meta reacts to it. Which I know is stupid because I genuinely have no idea what is in it.
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mhitza ◴[] No.44608204[source]
There seem to be 3 chapters of this "AI Code of Practice" https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/contents-c... and it's drafting history https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/ai-code-pr...

I did not read it yet, only familiar with the previous AI Act https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/ .

If I'd were to guess Meta is going to have a problem with chapter 2 of "AI Code of Practice" because it deals with copyright law, and probably conflicts with their (and others approach) of ripping text out of copyrighted material (is it clear yet if it can be called fair use?)

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jahewson ◴[] No.44608337[source]
> is it clear yet if it can be called fair use?

Yes.

https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/digital/copyrig...

Though the EU has its own courts and laws.

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1. GuB-42 ◴[] No.44611760[source]
If France, fair use doesn't even exist!

We have exceptions, which are similar, but the important difference is that courts decide what is fair and what is not, whereas exceptions are written in law. It is a more rigid system that tend to favor copyright owners because if what is seen as "fair" doesn't fit one of the listed exceptions, copyright still applies. Note that AI training probably fits one of the exceptions in French law (but again, it is complicated).

I don't know the law in other European countries, but AFAIK, EU and international directives don't do much to address the exceptions to copyright, so it is up to each individual country.

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2. mikae1 ◴[] No.44613520[source]
> If France, fair use doesn't even exist!

Same in Sweden. The U.S. has one of the broadest and most flexible fair use laws.

In Sweden we have "citaträtten" (the right to quote). It only applies to text and it is usually said that you can't quote more than 20% of the original text.