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Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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728 points freedomben | 2 comments | 18 Jul 25 15:54 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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bji9jhff ◴[18 Jul 25 17:13 UTC] No.44607275[source]▶
It is sad that in 2025 this needs to be repeated: fiction is not real.

This statement imply that:

* Simulated violence is not violence.

* Simulated sex is not sex.

* Simulated sorcery is not sorcery

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nkrisc ◴[18 Jul 25 23:06 UTC] No.44610770[source]▶
And yet it is possible to make simulations extreme enough I would not opposed to banning them. There are some things that should not be normalized in society.

It shouldn’t be payment processors doing it unilaterally, I’ll grant that. But I’m not (and I’m sure a great many more of a silent majority) wholly opposed to the outcome.

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Hizonner ◴[18 Jul 25 23:11 UTC] No.44610823[source]▶
> There are some things that should not be normalized in society.

That attitude has recently become normalized, and I find it Concerning(TM).

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miningape ◴[18 Jul 25 23:17 UTC] No.44610883[source]▶
Yeah, who gets to decide whats too far?

There's a similar issue with free speech - the moment you ban certain speech the door to banning your political opposition opens.

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encom ◴[18 Jul 25 23:32 UTC] No.44610994[source]▶
From what I can tell, only one country in the world has free speech. Actual free speech. USA.
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krapp ◴[18 Jul 25 23:37 UTC] No.44611050[source]▶
I don't know what your definition of "actual" free speech is but there are certainly limits to free speech even in the US[0].

And those are just explicit limits. Try supporting Palestine on a college campus or mentioning women or gay people in any government funded scientific publication, or finding a book portraying pro-LGBT content in a library or a school curriculum that portrays slavery in a way that "makes white people feel victimized" in the South.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...

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1. josephcsible ◴[19 Jul 25 00:00 UTC] No.44611195[source]▶
Isn't freedom of speech just "you're allowed to say whatever you want", and not "you're entitled to the use of taxpayer dollars to help distribute your message" or "you're entitled to have the government force children to read your message"?
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2. 8note ◴[19 Jul 25 01:51 UTC] No.44611834[source]▶
having a green card or visa stripped because you said something is not "having the government force children to read your message"