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Meta says it won’t sign Europe AI agreement, calling it an overreach

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297 points rntn | 5 comments | 18 Jul 25 17:56 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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rockemsockem ◴[18 Jul 25 18:41 UTC] No.44608323[source]▶
I'm surprised that most of the comments here are siding with Europe blindly?

Am I the only one who assumes by default that European regulation will be heavy-handed and ill conceived?

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9dev ◴[18 Jul 25 18:44 UTC] No.44608348[source]▶
Maybe the others have put in a little more effort to understand the regulation before blindly criticising it? Similar to the GDPR, a lot of it is just common sense—if you don’t think that "the market" as represented by global mega-corps will just sort it out, that is.
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Alupis ◴[18 Jul 25 18:47 UTC] No.44608376[source]▶
Our friends in the EU have a long history of well-intentioned but misguided policy and regulations, which has led to stunted growth in their tech sector.

Maybe some think that is a good thing - and perhaps it may be - but I feel it's more likely any regulation regarding AI at this point in time is premature, doomed for failure and unintended consequences.

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9dev ◴[18 Jul 25 18:53 UTC] No.44608437[source]▶
Yet at the same time, they also have a long history of very successful policy, such as the USB-C issue, but also the GDPR, which has raised the issue of our right to privacy all over the world.

How long can we let AI go without regulation? Just yesterday, there was a report here on Delta using AI to squeeze higher ticket prices from customers. Next up is insurance companies. How long do you want to watch? Until all accountability is gone for good?

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1. pembrook ◴[18 Jul 25 22:54 UTC] No.44610683[source]▶
Hard disagree on both GDPR and USBC.

If I had to pick a connector that the world was forced to use forever due to some European technocrat, I would not have picked usb-c.

Hell, the ports on my MacBook are nearly shot just a few years in.

Plus GDPR has created more value for lawyers and consultants than it has for EU citizens.

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2. kaashif ◴[18 Jul 25 23:33 UTC] No.44611008[source]▶
The USB-C charging ports on my phones have always collected lint to the point they totally stop working and have to be cleaned out vigorously.

I don't know how this problem is so much worse with USB-C or the physics behind it, but it's a very common issue.

This port could be improved for sure.

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3. Renaud ◴[19 Jul 25 00:29 UTC] No.44611380[source]▶
> Plus GDPR has created more value for lawyers and consultants than it has for EU citizens.

Monetary value, certainly, but that’s considering money as the only desirable value to measure against.

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4. pembrook ◴[19 Jul 25 01:18 UTC] No.44611655[source]▶
Who said money. Time and human effort are the most valuable commodities.

That time and effort wasted on consultants and lawyers could have been spent on more important problems or used to more efficiently solve the current one.

5. user5534762135 ◴[19 Jul 25 09:46 UTC] No.44614008[source]▶
As someone with both a usb-c and micro-usb phone, I can assure you that other connectors are not free of that problem. The micro-usb one definitely feels worse. Not sure about the old proprietary crap that used to be forced down our throats so we buy Apple AND Nokia chargers, and a new one for each model, too.