Meta says it won’t sign Europe AI agreement, calling it an overreach

Good. As Elon says, the only thing the EU does export is regulation. Same geniuses that make us click 5 cookie pop-ups every webpage

They didn't give us that. Mostly non-compliant websites gave us that.

that's deflecting responsibility. it's important to care about the actual effects of decisions, not hide behind the best case scenario. especially for governments.

in this case, it is clear that the EU policy resulted in cookie banners

Trump literally started a trade war because the EU exports more to the US than vice versa.

The the entire ad industry moved to fingerprinting, mobile ad kits, and 3rd party authentication login systems so it made zero difference even if they did comply. Google and Meta aren't worried about cookies when they have JS on every single website but it burdens every website user.

Elon is an idiot.

If he disagrees with EU values so much, he should just stay out of the EU market. It's a free world, nobody forced him to sell cars in the EU.

This is not correct, the regulation has nothing to do with cookies as the storage method, and everything to do with what kind of data is being collected and used to track people.

Meta is hardly at blame here, it is the site owners that choose to add meta tracking code to their site and therefore have to disclose it and opt-in the user via "cookie banners"

People complain more about cookie banners than they do the actual invasive tracking by those cookies.

Those banners suck and I wouldn't mind if the EU rolled back that law and tried another approach. At the same time, it's fairly easy to add an extension to your browser that hides them.

Legislation won't always work. It's complex and human behavior is somewhat unpredictable. We've let tech run rampant up to this point - it's going to take some time to figure out how to best control them. Throwing up our hands because it's hard to protect consumers from power multi-national corporations is a pretty silly position imo.

> than they do the actual invasive tracking by those cookies.

maybe people have rationally compared the harm done by those two

He also did the war thing on the UK which imports more from the US than it exports. He just likes trade wars I think.

can you expand on what sort of rationality would lead a person to consider an at worst annoying pop-up to be more dangerous than data exfiltration to companies and governments that are already acting in adversarial ways? The US government is already using people's social media profiles against them, under the Cloud act any US company can be compelled to hand data over to the government, as Microsoft just testified in France. That's less dangerous than an info pop up?

Of course it has nothing to do with rationality. They're mad at the first thing they see, akin to the smoker who blames the regulators when he has to look at a picture of a rotten lung on a pack of cigarettes

This thread is people going "EU made me either choose to tell you that I spy on you or stop spying on you, now I need to tell everyone I spy on them, fucking EU".

gdpr doesn't stop governments. governments are already spying without permission and they exploit stolen data all the time. so yes, the cost of gdpr compliances including popups is higher than the imperceptible cost of tracked advertising.

For one that is objectively incorrect. GDPR prevents a whole host of data collection outright, shifts the burden for corporations to collecting the minimal amount of data possible, and gives you the right to explicitly consent into what data can be collected.

Being angry at a popup that merely makes transparent, what a company tries to collect from you, and giving you the explicit option to say no to that, is just infantile. It basically amounts to saying that you don't want to think about how companies are exploiting your data, and that you're a sort of internet browsing zombie. That is certainly a lot of things, but it isn't rational.