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Hundred Rabbits – Low-tech living while sailing the world

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jvanderbot ◴[18 Jul 25 13:12 UTC] No.44604300[source]▶
I love the contrast in "Low tech/bootstrapped tech" this way vs, say, duskos.org. I call this "rabbits vs forth" tech bootstrappers. [1].

It's somewhat strange to me that their tech journey is so narrative and ends up with a VM stack, rather than any kind of salvaged / repurposed hard tech. But then again, I'm probably on the forth side of the spectrum.

https://jodavaho.io/posts/rabbits-or-forth.html

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jdiff ◴[18 Jul 25 14:14 UTC] No.44604869[source]▶
With their stance of permacomputing, you don't think the two go hand in hand? A simple VM that can be implemented quickly on almost any hardware or underlying tech stack you can scrounge together? The only thing they'd be really against is designing new hardware to run Uxn "natively," which would seem to push you exclusively to reuse what you have.
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kragen ◴[18 Jul 25 16:03 UTC] No.44606296[source]▶
100r's Uxn/Varvara aspires to be that, but that's not the same thing as succeeding at it. AFAIK the smallest computer with a full Uxn/Varvara implementation is a Nintendo DS [correction! Game Boy Advance], which is faster than the Sun workstation I was using in the 90s (though it has less RAM). You probably aren't going to get it running on an eZ80-based TI calculator, for example, or an Arduino UNO.

It's a good first step in that direction, the first attempt at permacomputing good enough to criticize.

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roughly ◴[18 Jul 25 16:15 UTC] No.44606444[source]▶
> the first attempt <…> good enough to criticize.

Ooh, I like this phrase.

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1. kragen ◴[18 Jul 25 16:58 UTC] No.44607081[source]▶
From Wiki:

http://found.ward.bay.wiki.org/view/good-enough-to-criticize

> Alan Kay described the Macintosh as the first personal computer good enough to be criticized. It was a serious step toward Kay's Dynabook. Not perfect, but in the right direction. In this 2017 interview Kay explains how he came to his vision and how it has been completely lost in mobile devices since.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40435064/what-alan-kay-thinks-ab...

While I think the implicit equation of Uxn with the 128KiB Macintosh is reasonable, the implicit comparison of me to Alan Kay is not.