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NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

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femiagbabiaka ◴[18 Jul 25 14:36 UTC] No.44605114[source]▶
How many rights will we be asked to give up in order to squash anti-war sentiment?
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one-note ◴[18 Jul 25 14:51 UTC] No.44605300[source]▶
Quite a lot. The #1 right, for instance: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_t...

Curious why this is downvoted?

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cayley_graph ◴[18 Jul 25 15:28 UTC] No.44605788[source]▶
I've noticed many right-leaning tech types give quite a lot of lip service to free speech when it's about someone getting banned from a mailing list for being an asshole, and not so much when it's the government quashing protest against genocide. I'll personally always defend the idea of free speech, no matter the side.
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ToValueFunfetti ◴[18 Jul 25 16:13 UTC] No.44606421{3}[source]▶
>I'll personally always defend the idea of free speech, no matter the side.

You attacked the idea of free speech for the other side in the same comment where you said this. I would assume based on reference to government infringements that you're referring to the first amendment as "free speech" if you hadn't specifically emphasized "idea"; conservatives have no real first amendment case, but they do get censored and suppressed by people with power. The idea of free speech is very much still in play when university admin cancels a guest speaker or a forum moderator only allows left-wing or non-political posts. What am I missing here?

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1. cayley_graph ◴[18 Jul 25 16:16 UTC] No.44606466{4}[source]▶
No? I would defend the first example too, which is why I specified the idea rather than the letter (the 1A). Is it so rare to see someone who genuinely cares about this stuff, not just for those who agree with me? That I think they're an asshole is irrelevant.
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2. ToValueFunfetti ◴[18 Jul 25 17:30 UTC] No.44607520[source]▶
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood you. If someone is being an asshole on a mailing list, I don't think it's a free speech issue to remove them, and I took that example in context to mean you were saying all conservative gripes were non-issues like that.

>Is it so rare to see someone who genuinely cares about this stuff, not just for those who agree with me?

Yes, absolutely. I can name maybe 8, including the both of us.