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andrewla[dead post] ◴[] No.44605920[source]
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jasonlotito ◴[] No.44606018[source]
> This headline is extremely misleading because it leads you to believe that they are IDing this person because they are a "Pro-Palestinian Student Protester".

It read like a privacy issue. Then I read your comment, and was confused.

> More proper would be "NYPD Bypassed Facial Recognition Ban to ID Rock-Throwing Assailant"

This is inaccurate. The charges were dismissed. At best, it's an alleged rock-throwing assailant.

> In the end, this is not a free speech issue except tangentially; it is a privacy issue.

That's what the original headline suggested to me on first reading. Why did you think the headline was a free speech issue?

That being said, the threat of a government disobeying its own rules and policies is a deterrent to free speech.

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1. chaps ◴[] No.44606376[source]

  "This is right and proper"
They literally banned the use of the technology!
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2. andrewla ◴[] No.44606428[source]
Here I am referring to their desire to find a person who committed what appeared to be a criminal act.

I am not excusing their use of the technology, only that the state and specifically the police have a compelling interest to find people who commit crimes. There are lots of limitations on their powers to accomplish this end, but we do want police to investigate crimes.

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3. chaps ◴[] No.44606557{3}[source]
You are definitionally excusing their use of the technology.

The definition of "excusing": "attempt to lessen the blame attaching to (a fault or offense); seek to defend or justify."

4. mtalantikite ◴[] No.44607604[source]
> why mention that he was a "Pro-Palestinian Student Protester"? That does not seem relevant at all

Because it seems highly unlikely that if I were to walk out of my apartment right now, walk down to the waterfront, and throw a rock at a group of people sitting at Marsha P Johnson park that the NYPD would even respond to the call. Never mind getting a fire marshal involved to run my photo through a facial recognition program. They've got more important things to deal with. (I'd also, of course, never do this).

This was a protest movement that was a national story and included congressional hearings, so it does seem relevant to have the context.

5. autoexec ◴[] No.44607698[source]
> If it is a privacy issue, why mention that he was a "Pro-Palestinian Student Protester"? That does not seem relevant at all;

It provides context. The US has an extensive history of illegal/unconstitutional/questionable surveillance of protesters. This could be seen as either another example of exactly that or, at the very least, as a warning that the police in NY are willing to illegally use facial recognition when it suits their interests.