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whycome ◴[] No.44604741[source]
Yeah but if NPR is defunded then this isn’t a story. /s

The article sometimes throws in the term Obamacare — is it still popularly called that? And do most Americans know it’s the same thing?

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billy99k[dead post] ◴[] No.44604769[source]
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ceejayoz ◴[] No.44604846[source]
This is, quite simply, a lie.

https://www.kff.org/report-section/ehbs-2023-section-1-cost-...

Figure 1.12 shows average annual premiums from 1999 to 2023. The ACA was passed in the middle of that range. It's a sustained upwards march, before and after its passage.

For all that cost - 2-3x as much as the other OECD nations spend, inclusive of taxes - we get shitty outcomes.

https://assets.ourworldindata.org/uploads/2016/04/ftotHealth...

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Covzire ◴[] No.44604919[source]
Prior to ACA all my colleagues in my peer group had employer provided health insurance that cost us very little, and it paid for virtually all medical bills except prescriptions. A HDHP was an option, but it only saved maybe a hundred or two a month, if that.

Today for most employees a HDHP is the ONLY option, and the cost is much higher than the old standard health plans were.

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blargthorwars ◴[] No.44605003[source]
Your peer group consisted of working people who could generally wake up in the morning. Generally healthy people.

Your insured pool now includes people who don't take care of themselves and treat the emergency room like a private doctor's office.

Other countries with government-controlled healthcare introduced wait times to encourage people to consider whether eating that extra donut was worth the health risk. I suspect we'll follow that path, too.

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1. ceejayoz ◴[] No.44605431[source]
> Other countries with government-controlled healthcare introduced wait times…

No, they have wait times. Just like the US does.

https://www.statista.com/chart/33079/average-waiting-times-f...

"According to a recent study by the Consumer Choice Center, the average wait for a GP appointment in the United States in 2023 was around three weeks, two to ten times longer than in Europe. For example, in that year, the average waiting time for a medical consultation was two days in Switzerland, six days in France and ten days in the United Kingdom and Italy."