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803 points csmantle | 2 comments | 13 Jul 25 08:38 UTC | HN request time: 1.061s | source
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gr4vityWall ◴[13 Jul 25 10:08 UTC] No.44549048[source]▶
I used to want to donate to Mozilla Foundation, but I've long lost any hope that the corporation would spend that money in a way that makes sense to me. The pessimist on me would expect donated money to be spent on more built-in "campaigns", "studies" or ads. Or maybe a bonus for their executives.

I just want Firefox to be faster. I'm donating to Floorp (a Firefox fork), at least they seem focused on making the browser better.

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Uehreka ◴[13 Jul 25 11:35 UTC] No.44549541[source]▶
I get why people are pissed at Mozilla, but I do feel like people on HN also underestimate how much hating Mozilla is becoming a hacker tribal signifier. It almost feel like each commenter is competing to out-hate the others or to add a layer of “in fact its so bad that we should (consequences)”.

Like, in general, I find that any HN thread where most of the comments are just agreeing, one-upping and yes-anding while invoking the same talking points and terminology (CEO ghouls, etc.) is probably a topic we might need to chill out on.

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1. wkat4242 ◴[13 Jul 25 14:16 UTC] No.44550617[source]▶
He wasn't fired. He stepped down because of the uproar not in Mozilla itself but in the user communities. Because that's what the shareholders care about, disgruntled employees don't affect the share value but a dark shadow over the brand does.

I was personally also happy to see him go. You can't be inclusive when you try to deny people you have nothing to do with their equality.

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2. wkat4242 ◴[14 Jul 25 02:08 UTC] No.44555793[source]▶
I don't agree I'm not inclusive. I don't mind if other people have other opinions. I'm totally fine if they go to church, want to stay in the closet if they're gay etc. They're not doing themselves any favours but that's fine. I'm not trying to stop them from marrying.

Where it gets exclusive is trying to prevent other people from being what they are by campaigning for laws. The figurehead (not just any employee!) of an organisation that purports to be inclusive shouldn't be doing that. It's not opinions but limiting other people's rights that I have a problem with. It's the same reason I won't buy things from Musk.

When I said I was glad he left I was a bit harsh though, true. I would have been fine if he had stayed and disavowed his actions.