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1. Gigachad ◴[] No.44539246[source]
The tech companies pushed propaganda through social media
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2. chris_wot ◴[] No.44539258[source]
There’s enough blame to go around, Americans.
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3. fzeroracer ◴[] No.44539305[source]
No, I think the companies running vast propaganda campaigns for the sake of their favored candidate so that they can pay 1% less in taxes and/or fuck around with the country as a side project deserve the blame.
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4. cookiengineer ◴[] No.44539354[source]
> Don’t blame the tech companies

I'm fine with blaming Peter Thiel and Elon Musk personally.

5. scarface_74 ◴[] No.44539379{3}[source]
The voters very much put Trump in office. He won the popular vote. They knew exactly what they were getting.
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6. scarface_74 ◴[] No.44539434{3}[source]
Everyone wants to blame social media. People knew exactly what they were getting from Trump. He had been in office for four years. They wanted Trump and he still has an almost 50% approval rating. Despite what Michelle Obama said, this is who this country has always been.
7. scarface_74 ◴[] No.44539440{3}[source]
And people didn’t know exactly what they were getting? Trump is exactly who America is and who America has always been.
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8. DonHopkins ◴[] No.44539485[source]
Blame the traitors who carry the water for the tech companies and post mindless mendacious propaganda defending them by deflecting blame.
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9. verdverm ◴[] No.44539490{3}[source]
We have been effectively divided by the billionaires, oligarchy, and foreign autocrats
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10. leptons ◴[] No.44539533[source]
There's enough blame for both, and then some.
11. leptons ◴[] No.44539545{4}[source]
Speak for yourself. Nobody I know is on board with anything that is happening from this administration, or congress or scotus.
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12. verdverm ◴[] No.44539606{4}[source]
The outrage and culture wars are not what the 100k deciding voters across 3 states based their choice on. Half of voters pay zero attention to the news and politics.

It was mainly prices, which historically has been a very common deciding factor. If people feel pain in their pocket book, they will give someone else a shot. They also remembered feeling better financially pre-covid

13. GuinansEyebrows ◴[] No.44539662{4}[source]
It’s become increasingly clear that at least some of them did not consider the negative impacts of a second Trump term’s policies on their personal lives and are now having to bear the violent results of that awful realization.
14. mindslight ◴[] No.44539679{4}[source]
Because your feelings get hurt when the con artist you chose as your champion has his own words and deeds described accurately? And this justifies spitefully wrecking the country by supporting an unhinged autocrat whose motives sit somewhere between manic dementia and serving foreign interests? And still rather than acknowledging this might have been a poor idea, you double down with some idea that it was justified simply to have expressed yourself, even though the first question out of every second Democrat's mouth is how to reconcile and find common ground with Republicans?

Look man, I'm a libertarian. I get the frustration and I totally understood why someone would vote for Trump in 2016. But after seeing his first round of abject failure and wanton dividership and then voting for even more of that, you deserve every ton of criticism heaped on you. This was really the time to put country above partisan squabbling, and you failed horribly.

15. palmfacehn ◴[] No.44539707{3}[source]
Depending on which flavor of outrage you prefer, this could apply to either party.
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16. watwut ◴[] No.44539788{4}[source]
If you are trying to imply democrats should be nicer to republicans, that was disproven over years.

Conservatives consistently prefer the most offensive insulting person around. And calls on left to make it nicer just move overtone window to the right. Conservatives interpret it as a weaknees.

Plus, it causes forever shift where republicans are euphemismed around, sanewashed and consistentky made to look better. That is failing strategy.

17. wredcoll ◴[] No.44539794{4}[source]
No, it really couldn't. I don't know why you think it could.
18. wredcoll ◴[] No.44539801{5}[source]
And if people you know represented the majority of americans, you'd have a point.
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19. wredcoll ◴[] No.44539813{4}[source]
This was many, many moons ago, but I still vividly remember learning that the vast majority of people who fought in the confederate army didn't own slaves.

It might be a bit of a silly point, but somehow it seems even worse to go to war for other people's slaves.

20. tastyface ◴[] No.44539880{4}[source]
Hey, whatever happened to those Epstein files Trump promised?
21. tzs ◴[] No.44540102{4}[source]
A majority of voters voted for candidates other than Trump.
22. leptons ◴[] No.44541148{6}[source]
They do represent a majority of Americans, but that is different from a majority of voters this time around. I do not belive a majority of Americans like what is going on, and all of us were lied to by those seeking authoritarian rule.
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23. scarface_74 ◴[] No.44541194{7}[source]
Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. He was in office for four years. Absolutely nothing about him has changed. The only thing is that the people who voted for him thought he was going to hurt other people - not them
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24. scarface_74 ◴[] No.44541200{4}[source]
So has Texas - who has voted Republican for 50 years divided by billionaires and oligarchy all 50 years?
25. scarface_74 ◴[] No.44541222{3}[source]
At what point do people stop making excuses for people? People especially in Texas willingly voted for both a President, Senators and representatives who had all been in office before and they knew exactly who they were - someone who promised to hurt other people, just not people who looked like them. Have the tech companies forced them to vote Republican since the 60s?
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26. legacynl ◴[] No.44542043{8}[source]
> Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do

No he doesn't. He has never provided a straight answer to any question about policy ever. He just said whatever he thought the audience wanted to hear. His answer to the same question has never been the same.

It's just that 50% of americans have been captivated by fox/facebook/twitter, and they tell those americans what to believe, and they're telling to vote trump, nomatter what he says.

27. DonHopkins ◴[] No.44542173{4}[source]
The point isn't that I'm making excuses for Texas voters, it's that you're both ignorantly making pathetic excuses for high tech companies, and ignorantly making false statements about Texas voters.

Solid Democratic South: Texas backed Democrats for president through the mid-1960s—even as the party enforced segregationist policies at home—carrying LBJ with 63.32% in 1964.

1960s Democratic wins: John F. Kennedy won Texas in 1960 (50.52%–48.52%) and Hubert Humphrey narrowly carried it in 1968 with 41.14%.

Early “swing” elections: Richard Nixon broke through in 1972 (66.20% for Nixon vs. 33.24% for McGovern), but Democrats reclaimed it for Jimmy Carter in 1976 (51.14%).

Reagan realignment: Beginning with Ronald Reagan’s win in 1980, Texas has voted Republican in every presidential contest since.

Statewide Democratic comebacks: Even after that, Texas elected Democrat Mark White governor in 1982 (53%–46%) and Ann Richards in 1990 (49.5%–46.9%).

U.S. Senate (Democratic representation)

Ralph Yarborough (D) served from 1957–1971, leading the liberal wing of the party in Washington

Lloyd Bentsen (D) won the Class 1 seat in 1970 (took office 1971) and was reelected in 1976, 1982, and 1988—he remains the last Democrat Texas voters sent to the Senate in a general election.

Bob Krueger (D) was appointed by Governor Ann Richards in January 1993 to fill Bentsen’s seat; he served until June 1993, when he lost the special election to Kay Bailey Hutchison (R).

Governor’s Mansion & Statewide Offices

Mark White (D) broke the GOP’s hold in 1982, defeating incumbent Bill Clements and serving as governor 1983–1987.

Ann Richards (D) won the 1990 gubernatorial race—she was governor 1991–1995 and the last Democrat (and last woman) to hold that office.

Texas Legislature

Senate majority: Democrats held the State Senate until 1996 (75th Legislature); Republicans first took control in 1997.

House majority: Democrats controlled the Texas House through 2002; Republicans gained it in 2003 (78th Legislature).