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chvid ◴[] No.44496586[source]
This goes on all over western media not only the bbc.
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tclover ◴[] No.44497973[source]
Western propaganda lies not only about this, corruption in the EU reaches incredible proportions, censorship, violations of freedom of speech, but Putin is always to blame.
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1. owebmaster ◴[] No.44505483[source]
the one that insults the other first loses the argument.
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2. bigyabai ◴[] No.44505490[source]
Quite the opposite. The last person to present credible evidence is often the only person telling the truth.

If you can forever prove the West wrong, don't keep us waiting.

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3. owebmaster ◴[] No.44505557{3}[source]
could be but you brought no new information besides a low level personal insult so the person you insulted added more to the discussion than you
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4. owebmaster ◴[] No.44509487{5}[source]
> Because they didn't, their original comment stands as logical fallacy, ad-hominem.

I do not want to make the same mistake as you, turning discussions into personal attacks (aka ad-hominem), but you were the only one using ad-hominem in this discussion, if you felt attacked because OP said that western leaders use Putin as a scapegoat, I think that is totally on you.

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5. bigyabai ◴[] No.44514280{6}[source]
Okay. I'm still waiting for a substantiation of the original claim, either from you or the OP.
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6. AlexeyBelov ◴[] No.44518576{7}[source]
You'll be waiting a really long time :D
7. tclover ◴[] No.44530457[source]
I’m not going to engage in word games here. You can defend the EU all you want, but when people in the EU start being hunted down in the streets like cattle just like they are now in Ukraine then maybe you’ll reconsider. And don’t tell me how to speak, there’s still nominal freedom of speech here, for now.