A new law in Sweden makes it illegal to buy custom adult content

These are adults we're talking about. It's neither harmful nor any business of the government.

This comment is deeply confusing. I'm really not sure what the argument is. Are you trying to say that any profession that has occupational hazards should be outlawed? In that case I hope you're ready to outlaw policing, firefighting, military, most professional sports, logging, and certainly a bunch of others I can't remember right now.

Or perhaps you're saying that specifically because it ranks high on the list of most dangerous professions, that it should be outlawed? In that case I hope you're ready to outlaw (again) logging, fishing, roofing, aircraft piloting, derrick operators and more. I hope you've also considered that the reason it's dangerous in the first place is because of the criminalization and lack of regulations governing sex work.

Or perhaps you just think that people are being pressured into doing sex work by their families, and therefore we should throw out the entire profession? In that case we need to be throwing out doctors, lawyers, and engineers.

I'd appreciate some clarification on what exactly the argument is.

Why did you say 12 year olds, ie children, instead of adults?

I'm ok with outlawing adults with free wills, getting payed to play russian roulett even if five out of six wont take a bullet to the head. Adults can be exploited too.

"neither harmful", tells me you know nothing about the subject.

Thank you for moralizing with a red herring.

What does that have to do with children [as opposed to adults] working in the coal mines, though?

Also while you might have a point in principle it has quite little to do with random chance like in the Russian Roulette example.

I'm saying that hiring people to do a job that is extremely dangerous, and likely to cause the worker harm, especially for your own enjoyment is exploitative.

Most of the jobs you list are FAR safer then prostitution. But yes I would argue there are lots of other jobs that i would outlaw for the same reason. Like Bumfighting, a lot of dodgy construction, self harm, jobs without proper safety equipment, gladiators, and a lot of military recruitment. You are exploiting, or are very likely to be exploiting people in dire situations.

We want to protect vulnerable members of society. they come in all sizes and shapes.

Whom gets to decide and determine who is “most vulnerable”?

Also when it comes to the Nordic countries it’s rather hypothetical, considering that they (+Estonia) have one of the highest rates of drug overdose related deaths in the EU. Surely they would have adopted different policies on that already if their goal was protecting the most vulnerable rather than puritanical moralism?

If you're going to compare OnlyFans to coal mines, at least make the metaphor apt.

I'm sure there are 18 year old men who enjoy working in coal mines, too.

Actually, I think that premise was part of Trump's election campaign, so at least on the other side of the Atlantic that sentiment seems to work out.

Thanks for clarifying. And yes, you're right that objectively sex work (as in, having sex with someone, not the revisionist definition including onlyfans) is high up on the most dangerous professions list.

However, that doesn't mean it has to be that way. My personal belief is that it should be treated a similar way to alcohol:

- there are only specific, licensed places where you can get it

- you must be over a certain age

- you cannot enjoy it in public

- establishments have a right to refuse service if you seem intoxicated or belligerent

Plus, adding on security to check for weapons and intervene in the rare case of violence.

In my opinion, if you combine all those regulations, sex work would be more than safe enough for it to not be considered a "dangerous" profession.

Your examples and appeals to emotion make no sense. Dying from a gunshot wound is de facto harmful to someone. Driving a person to s-u-i-c-i-d-e is not an act of commerce between consenting adults.

> Whom gets to decide and determine who is “most vulnerable”?

As galling as this is to American software developers, in this case it's the elected Swedish government

Yes, Sex work can be made more safe. However none of these protects against the psychological harm that may sex workers are experiencing. There is plenty of evidence how harmful prostitution can be to mental wealth.

You list things that regulated to protect the user of drugs, tobacco and alcohol, but with prostitution, the product is a human being that needs to be protected too.

The Nordic model, does not outlaw selling sex, but criminalizes buying. In my opinion, selling sex may be harmfull, but i see no ethical reason against it. However there is no ethical way to buy sex, because its impossible for a buyer to be sure that you are not causing serious harm to the person you are buying from.

Here's an idea, adults can regulate their own lives. You don't get to dictate how other people live based on some flimsy notion of "psychological harm".

Yes, That was implied in the question. Same government controlling drug policy and laws. Your point is?

Yeah thats an old idea, that have proven again and again to cause misery. Its not flimsy at all. Its peer reviewed science.

Maybe the victims of gunshots wanted to be shot? People shoot themselves all the time.

Should we make convictions of murder, depndent on proving that the victim dint actually want to get shot?

Sometimes you just miss!

Your hypotheticals are so outlandish and irrelevant, I honestly think you're trolling.

>peer reviewed science

Ok, troll.

There’s no psychological harm in the other extreme?

Nevermind actual policy outcome when there is opportunity for posturing.