←back to thread

395 points url | 8 comments | | HN request time: 1.719s | source | bottom
Show context
jdietrich ◴[] No.43800782[source]
Twenty years ago, I think there was still a sense that we were collectively laughing with each other about the dullness of small towns. We all had the same shops - Woolworths, Dixons, Our Price, BHS. We all had a leisure centre that looked like everyone else's leisure centre. Some towns were better off than others, some towns had parts that you were better off avoiding after dark, but the majority of towns belonged to the same broad spectrum of bland mediocrity.

Today, I think it's clear who would be being laughed at by whom. The fates of places have so radically diverged that we no longer have a sense of collective identity. All of the places listed in Crap Towns are now unrecognisable, for better or worse. Those familiar shops are now gone; in some places they have been replaced by artisan bakeries and pop-up boutiques, while in others they have been replaced by charity shops or nothing at all. Half the leisure centres have shut and we all know which half.

The upper middle class might have become more humourless and puritanical, but I think that's a subconscious self-defence mechanism, a manifestation of noblesse oblige without real obligation. The working class are too angry to laugh and certainly aren't willing to be laughed at. We all know that we're teetering on the brink of a populist wave, but no-one in a position of power seems willing or able to do anything about it.

replies(15): >>43800919 #>>43800937 #>>43800971 #>>43801102 #>>43801155 #>>43801453 #>>43801591 #>>43801875 #>>43802160 #>>43804316 #>>43804445 #>>43805995 #>>43806112 #>>43806115 #>>43806135 #
1. Spivak ◴[] No.43801162[source]
These are… specific examples. Something on your mind? Puritanical cultures do have an association with being sex-negative lack of a better term because purity culture sounds circular. But they're far from the only aspect of culture that can embody puritan thinking.
2. khazhoux ◴[] No.43801270[source]
They've been a naughty girls, they let their knickers down!
3. pydry ◴[] No.43801282[source]
puritanism is often linked to a backlash against this type of thing.

Weimar berlin was very open about this stuff too and was followed by a puritanical backlash. The world feels like it is going through something very similar.

4. ◴[] No.43801687[source]
5. graemep ◴[] No.43802127[source]
There is more to puritanical attitudes than sex. It generally means anti-pleasure.

One thing the real puritans are against that people have turned against very strongly is alcohol. It never stopped being a problem in the US, of course, but there are far more preachy teetotalers in the UK than there used to be, and government policy is very anti too.

Then there is the push for achievement and the acquisition of wealth. You are supposed to dedicate your life to the cause of high achievement, rather than stop to enjoy it.

Sex acts online actually fit in with all this as they are safe and controlled alternative to enjoying sex in real life.

6. okkdev ◴[] No.43802146[source]
How is this your #1 problem? We have so much serious issues and you are hung up on women having sex? Let them fuck how much they want. Nobody stopped men from fucking and if it works, doesn't that indicate a different problem?
replies(1): >>43817497 #
7. taurath ◴[] No.43802173[source]
The amount of people having sex has dropped quite a bit in the last decade.

People get into sex work for money - they can’t afford rent.

8. Smithalicious ◴[] No.43802387[source]
Girls are having sex with 1000 guys a day and some people clearly still aren't getting any... Inequality in theUUK is even worse than I thought :(