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1. cool_dude85 ◴[] No.43656762[source]
Is it possible for a country where 80% of the population is black to be a white ethnostate?
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2. MPSFounder ◴[] No.43656764[source]
The leadership is Jewish. You can argue America in the early 1900s during Jim Crow was not technically segregated and disenfranchised. Looking at facts without context is very misleading. The leadership themselves described their neighbors as animals. It is a nation based on dehumanization for the establishment of a religious ethnostate (hence the law of return aimed at Jews and not Muslim or Christian arabs for instance). Making any excuse on behalf of Israel is frankly mind-boggling. It is a tale of the slave feeding his master. Although many Americans stood for South African apartheid, so it comes as no surprise when fed propaganda, most of us will choose what to believe. Part of me wishes we exposed more of those Israeli farms etc, but it will come at a dear price if you do so (remember Congress is controlled by AIPAC, and they will throw the book at you if you do)
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3. robertoandred ◴[] No.43656815{3}[source]
> The leadership is Jewish

Might want to tell them that https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_...

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4. swarnie ◴[] No.43656824{3}[source]
Not since about 1991
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5. MPSFounder ◴[] No.43656840{4}[source]
A clown can always be put in charge for propaganda purposes. The facts remain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return

I know an American Christian family of Palestinian origin that proved their home had been in the outskirts of Nazareth (5 generations back, with concrete proof) that were denied a visit to Israel because they are not Jewish. It is shameful and repugnant. While anyone can visit Israel in theory, the gov will deny you entry if there is connection to the land that precedes Israeli settlements. And of course, the law of return is exclusively for Jewish people

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6. ahoy ◴[] No.43656845[source]
Was apartheid South Africa not an ethnostate then? Was the US south during slavery not an ethnostate?

I almost wonder if your comment itself is Israeli propaganda.

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7. Cyph0n ◴[] No.43656873{4}[source]
That flew right above your head mate.
8. donjoe0 ◴[] No.43656875[source]
*leading orchestrator of propaganda alongside the US, which has the most effective propaganda machine in the history of the world, more effective even than its actual military

All you need is to check the miles-long list of antidemocratic coups d'etat organized by - or with the critical support of - the US, and what the press or the public thought at the time if you asked them if the US was doing that.

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10. TimorousBestie ◴[] No.43656923{4}[source]
This serves to demonstrate that “Arabs” residing in Israel (with all the complexities of Israeli residency omitted for the sake of time) are relatively underrepresented in the Knesset.

You’ve shown less than 10% of the Knesset is “Arab” (for Israel’s peculiar definition of “Arab”), whereas 20+% of the population is.

11. skyyler ◴[] No.43656941{4}[source]
Dictionary.com says:

>a country populated by, or dominated by the interests of, a single racial or ethnic group:

Yeah, that sounds like Israel to me. Does that not sound like Israel to you?

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12. HappyPanacea ◴[] No.43657078{5}[source]
This sounds like most states in Eurasia and North Africa to me.
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13. skyyler ◴[] No.43657127{6}[source]
I believe you are free to criticize and even boycott those states over their ethnonationalism.

Boycotting israel over their continued occupation and genocide is illegal in most US states now.

14. maujun ◴[] No.43657523[source]
You seem to be indicating that the US actions were bad.

But after those actions, that's what many people wanted after simply reading/listening to some words.

Even if you say what the US is disseminating is not "true" (or misleading), it is debatable that truth matters more than the people's "preferences".

And it's debatable that other country's preferences matter more than the US people's. What's wrong with the US spreading it's view of morality (such as human rights)?

The US is the greatest country in the world. I learned that in school and don't need to worry about whether it's true. Now and when the time comes, I will be a good citizen.

15. dang ◴[] No.43657801{3}[source]
Both comments that you posted to this thread so far have broken the site guidelines. Can you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stop doing that?

You're welcome to make your substantive points thoughtfully, but it's not ok to attack others (for example).

This is really important, because the impact of doing this evokes worse from others in a fruit-of-the-poisoned-tree sort of way. It's not a surprise that your comment here formed the root of such a terrible subthread with so many comments breaking the site guidelines at least as badly.

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16. MPSFounder ◴[] No.43658735[source]
I am not a bot. In fact I welcome ideas to take them down. I am just not owned by Israel and do not disseminate their propaganda, and I frankly reject their influence on our politics. I see them as enemies of the United States, because their morals are very much not aligned with ours as far as I am concerned. Your other comments opposing blocking Israel tells me you are Israeli. I understand you could be victim of their propaganda too (visit the Ghaza strip. I am sure the IDF will provide you protection. Or fly a drone over it to see the famine Israel is responsible for). I would urge you to oppose your gov interfering in American politics. We do not take lightly to foreign interference :)
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17. t0lo ◴[] No.43663597{3}[source]
It deserves to be more promiment the moral misalignment between israel and the western world, and their negative influence on politics and human rights efforts in said countries. Israel is an enemy by any moral metric.