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    New in Gmail: Making E2E encrypted emails easy to use for all organizations

    (workspace.google.com)
    76 points skim | 21 comments | 01 Apr 25 15:20 UTC | HN request time: 1.103s | source | bottom
    1. irq-1 ◴[01 Apr 25 20:23 UTC] No.43550941[source]▶
    https://support.google.com/a/answer/14309952

    > Users with a consumer Google Account (such as Gmail users) can't access client-side encrypted content, send encrypted email, or participate in client-side encrypted meetings.

    > To view or edit client-side encrypted content, users must use either the Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge (Chromium) browser.

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    2. d332 ◴[01 Apr 25 21:54 UTC] No.43551725[source]▶
    Judging from the screencast, this UX is going to be a great gift for scammers.
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    3. SahAssar ◴[01 Apr 25 22:05 UTC] No.43551819[source]▶
    That's just absurd. Requiring both a specific (paid) email provider and specific (both funded by ads) browsers is a joke.
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    4. rlpb ◴[01 Apr 25 22:31 UTC] No.43551987[source]▶
    > When the recipient is a Gmail user (enterprise or personal), Gmail sends an E2EE email. The email is automatically decrypted in the recipient's inbox, and the recipient can use Gmail in a familiar way.

    So what happens with Search?

    replies(2): >>43552475 #>>43554987 #
    5. ninjastar99 ◴[01 Apr 25 22:52 UTC] No.43552120[source]▶
    Thought this was an April Fools joke - please tell me it is! That UI looks exactly like a phishing email. And then to make users login once they click it? Exactly like a phishing email.
    replies(2): >>43554441 #>>43555093 #
    6. commandersaki ◴[01 Apr 25 23:04 UTC] No.43552213[source]▶
    This is like their 3rd or 4th attempt to do encrypted email.
    7. netsharc ◴[01 Apr 25 23:54 UTC] No.43552475[source]▶
    Random unpolished idea: a (local) search engine that runs when seeing the email and stores the keywords encrypted in its index..

    So if you're looking for "Nigerian prince" it will look up "Avtrevna cevapr" and return references to the emails containing that term.

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    8. easton ◴[02 Apr 25 00:28 UTC] No.43552648[source]▶
    I mean, this is almost the same as the external Office 365 screens for encrypted mail just with Google’s design language, so maybe it doesn’t happen as often in practice?
    9. ariwilson ◴[02 Apr 25 02:15 UTC] No.43553108{3}[source]▶
    Why?
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    10. ◴[02 Apr 25 03:32 UTC] No.43553410{4}[source]▶
    11. CyanLite2 ◴[02 Apr 25 04:46 UTC] No.43553748[source]▶
    April Fool's!
    12. cachedthing0 ◴[02 Apr 25 06:50 UTC] No.43554245[source]▶
    Google and privacy is like Zuckerberg and moral or JD Vance and self-reflection. Only on april 1.
    13. hcaz ◴[02 Apr 25 07:33 UTC] No.43554441[source]▶
    Google have a history of releasing products on april 1st, gmail itself was right?
    14. saint_yossarian ◴[02 Apr 25 09:30 UTC] No.43554987[source]▶
    ProtonMail downloads the whole mailbox to browser storage to support fulltext search.
    replies(1): >>43563631 #
    15. Tutanota ◴[02 Apr 25 09:50 UTC] No.43555093[source]▶
    Here's a better one: Breaking: Gmail starts using the whitelabel version of Tuta Mail so that 2.5 billion users will get automatic encryption.

    https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/114262092716832489

    16. blitzar ◴[02 Apr 25 12:11 UTC] No.43555819[source]▶
    Is this a .gov selling feature they are letting us mere mortal corporations play with?
    17. wildzzz ◴[02 Apr 25 13:17 UTC] No.43556362{3}[source]▶
    Is that an April fools joke? Proper encryption suites don't produce something that looks like a Caesar cipher, it's just a solid block of seemingly random data. You can't really index something like the words inside an email unless you first decrypt it.
    18. egberts ◴[02 Apr 25 16:12 UTC] No.43558287[source]▶
    Ummmmm, E2E on a JavaScript-infested website?

    No thanks. Just, no.

    19. moralestapia ◴[03 Apr 25 01:11 UTC] No.43563631{3}[source]▶
    Whew!
    20. Larrikin ◴[03 Apr 25 01:15 UTC] No.43563655{4}[source]▶
    Email exists between providers in its current form because there weren't people trying to figure out how to insert themselves in between so they can make money. Justify needing a better reason