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leshokunin ◴[] No.42176328[source]
The constant Russian interference, combined with the regular escalation from the jets patrolling, and the radar jamming, really needs to be dealt with.

We're stuck between having to do timid actions and full NATO escalation. This feels like constant creep.

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meiraleal[dead post] ◴[] No.42176516[source]
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polotics ◴[] No.42176765[source]
Nato is a defensive alliance against any offensive act. Russia, ...as in: the mafia of the few profiteering rulers currently at the helm, is not fighting back anything. Firstly, its mad Ukrainian adventure has meant it has made its border very defence-free on its border with Nato countries. Secondly, it is constantly attacking in hybrid warfare mode, paying local lowlife to do propaganda graffiti and sabotage. The appropriate response is to hold all responsible individuals accountable. Eventually the lower ranks will understand that playing along to Old-man-putin's tune of death won't bring them closer to anything but grief.
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1. mantas ◴[] No.42177257[source]
Coming from eastern europe… To us russia is the coloniser to us. What „West“ did in „global south“, russia just did the same to its neighbors. Even including racisty-chauvinisty element.

Unfortunately russia has the strength to rape & pillage through neighbors once in a while.

2. jiggawatts ◴[] No.42177327[source]
> Lucky Russia to have the strength to make their enemies fear them.

Russia has enemies because for centuries it has attacked its neighbours repeatedly.

And then imposed its own idea of peace that involves tanks rolling through Budapest and soldiers executing students and poets.

Tiananmen square shocked the world, but that kind of behaviour was already familiar to Eastern Europeans. It was the same old song, different orchestra.

Russia is not your friend, no matter what the propaganda tells you and your countrymen.

You’re just momentarily useful to a warlike mafia controlling a country.

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3. Delk ◴[] No.42177633[source]
> How dare they not do what we tell them!

What has NATO (or Western Europe) told Russia to do? What is NATO threatening or attacking Russia with due to it not doing what NATO wants?

4. aguaviva ◴[] No.42177746[source]
How dare they not do what we tell them!

No one is telling Russia (meaning its current authoritarian regime) to do anything.

Other than to pick up its toys, and get back to its own yard.

And stay there, this time.

5. Delk ◴[] No.42177755[source]
> Russia has enemies because for centuries it has attacked its neighbours repeatedly.

To be fair, historically Russia has also been a target of attacks and invasions repeatedly. (Generally not by the same smaller neighbours it has been attacking, of course.)

That history has nothing to do with the present-day conflict, though, except that it might be a part of what gives some Russians a feeling of being threatened. And Soviet-style aggression is of course just imperialism by any other name.

6. the_why_of_y ◴[] No.42178042[source]
Ironically(?), Russia's racism tends to dehumanize Caucasians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechen_genocide

7. meiraleal ◴[] No.42183120[source]
> Russia has enemies because for centuries it has attacked its neighbours repeatedly.

The same can be said of the French, English and Germans, that only stop destroying themselves after they united to fight Russia (which ironically saved the first 2 against the last one otherwise they would not even exist as sovereign states anymore).

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8. nozzlegear ◴[] No.42201382{3}[source]
> which ironically saved the first 2 against the last one otherwise

I think you're forgetting somebody important? Another country that was actually on the beaches in Normandy?