Humans have caused 1.5 °C of long-term global warming according to new estimates

First post and it turned into a US politics discussion. Great.

What do you think will fix it?

Average western person emits more co2 than the average Chinese person. Not sure why we would go after them unless you just don't like to see your 'team' look bad

The US is responsible for a huge chunk of the historical emissions that got us to 1.5C, and on a per-capita basis US emissions still solidly outstrips China. China has only recently begun to emit any notable amount of CO2.

The western world, and Americans in particular, have made a big mess. Seems like we should focus on cleaning up our own mess before asking other people to stop their much-newer, much-smaller messmaking.

What odds do you want to give that this person doesn't really see it as a problem anyway?

Taxes are actually pretty good at modifying consumer behavior, so yeah that's definitely in the toolbox.

Who is proposing "not going after China?"

The whole topic is political.

What do you think the fix is? Because the only 'solution' seems to be adding more and more taxes to the average Joe whilst endless e-waste/junk gets shipped over from China via AliExpress/Temu day to day.

We keep getting told the average Joe is to blame for eating meat and taking flights whilst large corporations/industry laugh at us. Make it make sense.

Politics is everywhere any affects every facet of your life. The idea of being apolitical, non-political, or politically neutral are a myth.

While true, US per-capita greenhouse gas emissions peaked 20+ years ago and are now down almost 20% [1]. China's per-capita greenhouse emissions are lower but on a steep upward trajectory due to the rapid industrialization of hundreds of millions more people. China's outlook is particularly concerning if you factor in land-use [2].

At the same time, China is by far the biggest creator of renewable energy [3].

[1]: https://www.wri.org/insights/charts-explain-per-capita-green...

[2]: https://www.climate.gov/media/15559

[3]: https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-renewable-energy

Temu doesn't ship items across the world for fun. They do it because the average Joe pays them to do it.

The meat industry doesn't hold excessive amounts of cattle for fun. They do it because the average Joe pays them to do it.

These industries don't just happen to exist. They exist because the average Joe wants them to exist.

If the average Joe stopped buying meat, stopped shopping on Temu and stopped buying palm oil, these industries would cease to exist within days.

But the average Joes wants them to exist. The average Joe decides, every single day, over and over again, that he wants these industires to destroy the climate.

Oh but it's just so convenient and cheap to shop on Temu.