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1. niek_pas ◴[] No.42064277[source]
They never actually went through with that, did they?
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2. wutwutwat ◴[] No.42064348[source]
Comments like this are extremely common on any apple post related to photos and honestly it's pretty sus that you and many others will start complaining about a thing nobody even mentioned, because of the thing you're complaining/concerned/pissed about. That's pretty telling imo and nobody ever calls it out. I'm going to start calling it out.
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3. MaKey ◴[] No.42064503[source]
What exactly are you calling out?
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4. jgalt212 ◴[] No.42064718{3}[source]
Indeed. What exactly is being called out? That someone is expressing concern at the impossibility of a vendor's claims?
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5. nerdjon ◴[] No.42064790[source]
That was never actually released so there is no "still".

Also worth mentioning that if that had shipped, it would have only taken affect if you uploaded images to iCloud.

6. ZekeSulastin ◴[] No.42064889[source]
They indeed shelved the plan {1}, and have also introduced iCloud Advanced Data Protection (their branding for end to end encryption) {2}.

There is still the opt-in Communication Safety {3} that tries to interdict sending or receiving media containing nudity if enabled, but Apple doesn’t get notified of any hits (and assuming I’m reading it right the parent doesn’t even get a notification unless the child sends one!).

1: https://archive.ph/x6z0K (WIRED article)

2: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651 (Adv Data Protection)

3: https://support.apple.com/en-us/105069 (Comm Safety)

7. dialup_sounds ◴[] No.42065342{3}[source]
They're saying the above user may be a pedophile on the basis that they brought up CSAM on an article that has nothing to do with it.
8. wutwutwat ◴[] No.42070338{4}[source]
calling out you complaining about child porn scanning when nobody is talking about that and it isn't what the link posted is about. Why bring up and express your dislike of a thing that 1. was never implemented and 2. was conceived to prevent the abuse of children.

People who post things like you did, unprovoked, when nobody is talking about it and it has nothing to do with the post itself is fucking weird and I'm tired of seeing it happening and nobody calling out how fucking weird it is. It happens a lot on posts about icloud or apple photos or ai image generation. Why are you posting about child porn scanning and expressing a negative view of it for no reason. Why is that what you're trying to talk about. Why is it on your mind at all. Why do you feel it's ok to post about shit like that as if you're not being a fucking creep by doing so. Why do you feel emboldened enough to think you can say or imply shit and not catch any shit for it.

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9. luuurker ◴[] No.42073286{5}[source]
The feature wasn't introduced because of public backlash. It had problems and could be tricked, which at the very least should make you stop accepting everything Apple says about security and privacy at face value. On top of this, while "conceived to prevent the abuse of children", it could be easily used to target someone such as yourself for sharing a meme making fun about the president of your country (or something like that[0])... there's also the fact Apple has bent backwards just to be present in some markets (eg: China and Apple banning VPNs[1]). It doesn't take much to understand why these comments pop up on posts about images + Apple's security/privacy.

Since we're calling people out, allow me to call you out:

Wanting your devices to be private and secure or asking questions about Apple after their f-up doesn't make you a pedo or a pedo sympathiser. Comments that suggest otherwise can also be a bit "sus" (to use your expression), especially in a place like HN where users are expected to know a thing or two about tech and should be aware that the "think of the children" excuse - while good - is sometimes used to introduce technology that is then misused (eg: the internet firewall in the UK that was supposed to protect the children and now blocks sexual education stuff, torrents, etc).

I'll assume your intentions are good, but it isn't right to assume or imply that people complaining about this stuff are pedos.

[0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/if-you-build-it-they-w...

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/technology/apple-says-it-is-...

10. saagarjha ◴[] No.42073623[source]
They’re extremely common because that’s how everyone on Hacker News posts. No need to insinuate someone is a pedophile.