If they missed this, this puts into question all the rest of the data IMO.
If they missed this, this puts into question all the rest of the data IMO.
Say you have n continuous parameters to your mode. This equates to an n dimensional polygon. Unless you a high iteration Monte Carlo technique the output of your model is going to depend on where exactly your estimator point in n degree space lands, and its accuracy will depend on its distance from the actual (unknown) point in the set.
Now, many of the parameters in large models have never been measured. They are averages from the literature, or in cases where there is no literature, which is common in cutting edge science, the investigators guess.
If you look at the meta studies of climate models, which is what the IPCC uses to make projections, they come out all over the place. These models really aren't great prediction tools. They are best thought of as tools for understanding a the components of a complex system.
Covid was a perfect example: modeling was suggesting devastating impacts from covid, to which localities responded differently, some were aggressive, some were lax. It didn't seem to matter. Yes, one can find statistically significant instances where different covid responses led to higher mortality rates, but nothing substantial enough for any group to want to change what they did.
CO2 makes up 0.04% of the atmosphere and humanity is only responsible for 3% of its creation. We are making very fine grained estimated using a macro model. It's a bit like carving toothpicks with a chain saw.
What explains the remaining percent points then?
Atmospheric CO2 at the first measurement in ~1958 was ~318, latest in 2022 was ~419 (reading a plot on wikipedia[1]). Note that in 1958, the industrial revolution was already in history books, idk what pre-fossil-fuel values were. Going from 318 in 1958 to 419 in 2022 is +32%, you said 3%, so there's a few missing there
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_at...
Edit: just noticed the article lede says +50% since mid-18th century, I don't need to be interpreting graphs here lol. Either way, you missed an order of magnitude somewhere. But it also doesn't matter, because if 3% would have changed our habitat then it still would have been too much right?
The climate is millions of years old. We have at best 200 years of data.
If we are wrong about this Putin wins big time as Russia is sticking to its fossil fuel revenue sources and keeping the majority of the developing world on fossils.
Russia is turning Africa as we speak. Do you have any idea of what the implications are of Russia achieving global dominance, in alliance with China?
I'm not sure what conversation we're having if you start a new topic without replying to the old, but sure I'll humor you on those points as well
> The climate is millions of years old.
At best, it's a few thousand years old. The climate was quite different 20k years ago during the last glacial period.
> We have at best 200 years of data.
Why are you're ignoring ice cores and other things we've drilled up and measured?
> Putin wins big time
Okay. I really don't care that one human, who will be long dead by then, turns out to have been right that climate change is a hoax, though I'm not aware that he made any statements on the matter. I'd be really happy if we're all wrong and the last dozen summers were just coincidentally hot and everything goes back to normal of its own accord. Better that and a rich Russia than the world being too warm for most of today's animals and sad Russians to boot!