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Apple already shipped attestation on the web, and we barely noticed

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596 points pimterry | 3 comments | 25 Jul 23 14:10 UTC | HN request time: 0.764s | source
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toyg ◴[25 Jul 23 14:54 UTC] No.36863175[source]▶
This might be where the internet really gets forked, as it's been predicted over and over since the '90s.

On one side, we'll have a "clean", authority-sanctioned "corpweb", where everyone is ID'ed to the wazoo; on the other, a more casual "greynet" galaxy of porn and decentralized communities will likely emerge, once all tinkerers get pushed out of corpnet. It could be an interesting opportunity to reboot a few long-lost dreams.

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1. takeda ◴[25 Jul 23 15:31 UTC] No.36863794[source]▶
It would essentially be the same thing that we have right now.
2. sillystuff ◴[25 Jul 23 16:13 UTC] No.36864594[source]▶
> I predict this greynet will be a cesspool of porn, revenge porn, misogyny, racism, bots, and scams.

Probably.

But, the corpweb will be all that plus being a cesspit of unblockable ads and unblockable corporate surveillance.

And, if you are the type to maintain an old school website (not an ad supported SEO blog spam site), I'd guess you'd be more inclined to support the freedom net aka grey net.

3. sircastor ◴[25 Jul 23 18:22 UTC] No.36867004[source]▶
This is what saddens me so much about darknet/meshnet/"open confederated systems". They seem to attract the people and content that are not welcome anywhere, and so they show up here because they got kicked out of everywhere else. With the early web it was first research institutions and then hobbyists and early adopters. Nowadays you can't run your bar without some Neo-Nazis showing up and trying to make your bar their local hangout.