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darepublic ◴[] No.23352614[source]
As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved in the original incident should be investigated.. but the mainstream media is to my mind basically behind the looters, and I know if by chance I or someone like me were to be caught in the crossfire and killed, the mainstream media, posturing as champions of justice, would just implicitly shrug. So yea I can't help but feel disaffected by this coverage, no matter how vile the originating incident.
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seaknoll ◴[] No.23353096[source]
This movement is about centuries of unjustness. To me, it is appropriate that the occasional bystander and business is overlooked. That doesn't mean that if you were my sibling, or friend, or business that I wouldn't be entitled to express personal pain. But the magnitude of my pain is nothing next to the pain that's led up to this, and no it wouldn't be appropriate for it to get remotely equal attention.

Sure, ideally bystanders and local businesses (in particular) would be spared. But nothing about the historical events leading to now is ideal.

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1. Thinkx220 ◴[] No.23353193[source]
Unfortunately, both you, the media, and the looters keep forgetting the events are, as you said, history.
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2. augustt ◴[] No.23353219[source]
It's history and it's the present. You sound like the people who claim racism must be over since Obama was elected.
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3. ardy42 ◴[] No.23353284[source]
> Unfortunately, both you, the media, and the looters keep forgetting the events are, as you said, history.

But history can be important. Literally everything that's known and has been done is now history, including recently committed crimes.

The history that we're talking about still has clearly identifiable painful consequences in present-day communities, so it's not something that can just be filed away and ignored as no longer relevant.

4. cde-v ◴[] No.23353299[source]
Until it happens again, and again, and again, and again....
5. ComputerGuru ◴[] No.23353346[source]
If it were purely history, we wouldn’t be seeing the violence, injustice, and disparity we see today. The problem is that isn’t “history”, it’s ongoing.
6. meragrin_ ◴[] No.23353500[source]
What about this event indicates racism was involved? Because the cop is not behind bars? That is most likely due to union rules and procedures which have to be followed.
7. rz2k ◴[] No.23354001[source]
What does "history" mean? The suffering of innocent bystanders in past riots is history. In a year the innocent bystanders of these riots will be "only history".

Many of the immigrants who have created new businesses in the US have experienced terrible histories themselves, but they have been able to put these behind them, because their antagonists are not in the US.

I don't think historic injustices should be simply ignored, but the problem is even more severe when the systemic abuses your community is experiencing is not only in the past, not only occurring in the moment, but there is realistic prospect that conditions will to improve.

Private companies militarizing police forces never face liability, and sworn, armed officers belong to unions, and neither of those seems on a course to changing.

It is a completely untenable situation for American citizens to be extra-judiciously killed by government employees. Rioting doesn't help, peaceful protests don't help, you can't even respectfully kneel during the national anthem without being treated as though you're rejecting everything about the country. Petitions? Hunger strikes? Self-immolation?