Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

> The Rodney King verdict and the ensuing riots are often framed as a turning point for law enforcement and the African-American community. But it's also the single most significant modern event for Korean-Americans, says Edward Taehan Chang, professor of ethnic studies and founding director of the Young Oak Kim Center for Korean American Studies at the University of California, Riverside.

> The nearly weeklong, widespread rioting killed more than 50 people, injured more than 1,000 people and caused approximately $1 billion in damage, about half of which was sustained by Korean-owned businesses. Long-simmering cultural clashes between immigrant Korean business owners and predominately African-American customers spilled over with the acquittals.

I'm on the side of the protesters here, don't get me wrong. But the media sweeps under the rug how often the rage from these events gets taken out on Indians, Pakistanis, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc.-owned small businesses. There is a narrative the media wants to peddle (black versus white), and these complexities don't have any place in the media narratives.

It could've been easily prevented by actually arresting someone that committed abject murder, but the city and the police chose to instead defend a man who has killed multiple people in the past and got away with it scott-free. So when people feel like justice no longer exists, there should be no surprise that they get angry.

It doesn't help that the police also employ agent provocateurs whom help incite riots and looting so that they can use more violent tactics with glee.

I think this is the key here. The whole BLM movement has been going on for years and, for the most part, it seems like a lot of people are more aware. It doesn't seem like anybody from the top cares to do anything about it though.

... and were left alone for weeks, or more. Given some slaps on the wrist. And the tax payer footed the bill for the cleanup.

To put it with MLK: A riot is the voice of the unheard.

The systemic issues of the Black (and other foreigner) community across the Western societies, especially with police and laws specifically designed to target them (e.g. almost all drug legislation), have been ignored for way too long. I'm no friend of rioting myself but I will not judge upon those who have deemed it necessary to be finally heard.

This is human nature and the entire story of our history. Aeschylus even wrote about it:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oresteia

This is the strategy to vilify any movements from the people: focus on how they are acting violent, when this violence is very well in proportion to the enemy’s first move.

Sure, ideally bystanders and local businesses (in particular) would be spared. But nothing about the historical events leading to now is ideal.

edit: s/charged/arrested

Oh give it a rest. We saw him kill the man, he can sit a cell and prepare for his trial like any other killer. If you don't like what people int he media say find different commentators or stop listening to pundits altogether.

I am sick to the back teeth of people complaining about 'the mainstream media', when Fox News and Sinclair broadcasting are two of the biggest companies in TV.

Wow, what an incredibly enlightened viewpoint, thanks for sharing. Curious to hear your thoughts on the Boston Tea Party.

That is literally the law of the land. Read into castle doctrine and duty to retreat. Business owners have the legal right to defend their life on their property with deadly force if left no choice (i.e. a mob has surrounded you)

At any rate his tweet was ambiguous, he could have meant shooting naturally follows looting, not that he was ordering the guard to execute civilians.

Oh, and I want a perp walk. All the usual stuff that happens to other people. And then it's time to talk about the doctrine of qualified immunity and a whole lot of other things.

There were also a lot of statements from police leadership that this incident wasn't acceptable or normal police procedure which is a drastic change from in the past where you had people staying silent or even defending and rationalizing the perpetrators actions.

The looting and rioting weaken a cause that after many years of being in the spotlight seemed to have reached a tipping point of overwhelming agreement.

I don't see how in a country with independent judiciary anything more can be done.

But history can be important. Literally everything that's known and has been done is now history, including recently committed crimes.

The history that we're talking about still has clearly identifiable painful consequences in present-day communities, so it's not something that can just be filed away and ignored as no longer relevant.

And if this 'an eye for an eye' philosophy is what you are promoting, how is Trump's tweet then out of place?

Things are, ultimately, knowable. Its not "political" or up to "opinion".

Stop equating property with life. They're not the same. They're not even close.

I know this may be a difficult thing to accept for some people on this site, since it is at its core a tech investment site, but no amount of financial damage would be "proportional" to systemic excusal of murder.

Police defended the rich neighborhoods and pushed the riot into places where society tolerates more damage.

Your comment is what is senseless fear. Protesters are not attacking random people, no matter what your ethnicity.

They were already evading justice before the video came out (the internal police analysis was obviously false). Pantaleo was never charged for Garner's death. In other cases we have seen video evidence excluded from trial and officers walk.

I'm not remotely confident that this will lead to convictions.

> A restaurant caught in the crossfire of unrest in Minneapolis Thursday night has sent a powerful message to its followers on social media: “Let my building burn.”

https://www.facebook.com/111805205582613/posts/3030378453725...:

> Sadly Gandhi Mahal has caught fire and has been damaged....Don’t worry about us, we will rebuild and we will recover. This is Hafsa, Ruhel’s daughter writing, as I am sitting next to my dad watching the news, I hear him say on the phone; “ let my building burn, Justice needs to be served, put those officers in jail”. Gandhi Mahal May have felt the flames last night, but our firey drive to help protect and stand with our community will never die! Peace be with everyone.

Where was your rage for Justine Damond? Shot by Officer Mohamed Noor from the passenger seat of his police cruiser, across his partner. Where were the riots?

Also, when people complain about MSM they are including Fox and Sinclair. It's all corrupted and meant to drive a narrative instead of presenting objective views from both sides. It's not up to MSM to tell us how to think about events. Their job is to report the facts. Hardly any of them do anymore, if they ever did.

If I shot someone on video[0], I would be charged with a crime, likely homicide, that day and in jail until a bail hearing. At which point I might have the option to leave jail until my trial.

In this case the officer was arrested 3 days later (about an hour ago at time of writing), and only due to pressure from both citizens and politicians. Without that, it may have taken longer to charge him, or he may not have been charged at all, just like the other multiple times this officer killed someone.

That's a double standard. The police should serve the people, not be above them or immune to oversight.

[0]: A white person, if I shot a black person, the DA's office might try to cover it up and I'd only get arrested a month later after protests: https://www.nytimes.com/article/ahmaud-arbery-shooting-georg...

And if your expression of pain includes looting booze from a liquor store or a TV from Target, what exactly are you trying to say? By the way, those bystanders and local businesses owners are people of color too.

He can sit in a cell while being investigated. The fact that it is all on camera just makes it a quick investigation. But everyone gets due process. (also EVERYONE there needs to be investigated, not just the killer)

> Noor was ultimately arrested and charged with second-degree manslaughter and third-degree murder following an eight-month investigation by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and the Hennepin County Attorney's Office. In April 2019, Noor was convicted of third-degree murder and manslaughter, but acquitted of intentional second-degree murder. In June 2019, Noor was sentenced to 12.5 years in prison.

It seems like the system ended up working to a degree, at least putting the murderer behind bars. So why would one expect significant protests?

The outrage in these cases isn't over a white cop killing a black person per se, it's that the system immediately moves to protect the murderers because they're cops. Rather than arresting the criminal, fellow corrupt cops were stationed outside of his house to protect him. That the main perp has finally been charged is a product of the protests rather than the justice system moving slowly - witness that the conspirators have yet to be charged. Anyone who believes in law and order should be sympathetic to the protestors, even in spite of race.

Furthermore, ascribing the motives of a few looters onto the whole protest is ridiculous. Especially as at least some of that destruction was led by agents provocateurs.

Many of the immigrants who have created new businesses in the US have experienced terrible histories themselves, but they have been able to put these behind them, because their antagonists are not in the US.

I don't think historic injustices should be simply ignored, but the problem is even more severe when the systemic abuses your community is experiencing is not only in the past, not only occurring in the moment, but there is realistic prospect that conditions will to improve.

Private companies militarizing police forces never face liability, and sworn, armed officers belong to unions, and neither of those seems on a course to changing.

It is a completely untenable situation for American citizens to be extra-judiciously killed by government employees. Rioting doesn't help, peaceful protests don't help, you can't even respectfully kneel during the national anthem without being treated as though you're rejecting everything about the country. Petitions? Hunger strikes? Self-immolation?

Again, the rioting isn't a good thing, but it's understandable.

Also, when people complain about MSM they are including Fox and Sinclair.

Please don't insult my intelligence again.

That shooting wasn't part of a system of institutional and deep rooted racism. Neither was it part of a system where white cops routinely harass black people with no basis other than the colour of their skin; where white cops use horrifyingly excessive violence and all too often murder black suspects, bystanders and innocents - a system where the perpetrators of that violence and murder are almost guaranteed to face no repercusions at all. A system of ingrained inquality that spans decades.

Black people are harassed, racially abused, set upon and shot frequently by white cops in the USA - and the videos we see pretty much on a daily basis in the news and on twitter are only the tip of the iceberg.

As someone in the UK, the the inequality and racism that still exists in the USA, "land of the free", is mind boggling, sickening even. Something has to change, so yes, I can fully understand protests and rioting.

I don't know if it could have been prevented by arresting just this murderer, as it's far from an isolated incident.

I do however think it could have been prevented by an edict from the top years ago, issuing a zero-tolerance policy for harassment, abuse and murder by police officers, with focus on clearly racially motivated incidents. I'm fom the UK, so don't claim to understand american politics, but I just don't understand why something like that hasn't happened, especially when Obama was president.

What else do you think might get this kind of attention? Fact is, incidents like this have been happening for a long, long time, yet nothing changes.

I'm reminded of the film "Do the Right Thing", by Spike Lee. 1989. Not much has changed in America.

Thankfully you saved it with "but muh system".

>Why do you think that the rioters were in koreatown during the rodney king riots?

Because there's incredible racist animosity against Asian people in the black community.

Some people (you) are currently pretending this isn't the case, and that it was just a crazy coincidence that blacks targeted Korean businesses during the LA riots, resulting in _half_ the monetary damages of the whole event.

I disagree, and I think that's a pernicious viewpoint. Americans tend to downplay the real antagonism and differently-aligned incentives that exists between different minority groups, in an effort to paint things as a matter of "whites versus everyone else." But, for example, Asians are treated very favorably by the police. (The incarceration rate for asian Americans is something like 1/6 of the rate for white Americans.) Saying that the problems they face are the same as those faced by other minority groups is erasing their individual experiences.

I think it's ludicrous to call a spontaneous out-pouring of despair and anger, after being wronged so badly for so long, an act of "terrorism".

Then we'll have to agree to disagree, opportunists don't exist without a crowd.