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Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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1061 points danso | 12 comments | 29 May 20 07:24 UTC | HN request time: 0.136s | source | bottom
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bilbo0s ◴[29 May 20 08:38 UTC] No.23347697[source]▶
In fairness, Trump's tweets are not about actually doing anything, they are more about getting votes. So arguing the feasibility of suggestions outlined in a Trump tweet kind of misses the point.
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tehwebguy ◴[29 May 20 12:54 UTC] No.23349351[source]▶
It was a message, directly to law enforcement, that he thinks it’s okay for them to shoot protestors so long as there is looting. I can’t see how anyone would see that as anything other than a crime against humanity
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chooseaname ◴[29 May 20 14:20 UTC] No.23350240[source]▶
I don't know why you're getting down voted. Trump's words are a quote of someone who believed that "... it’s okay for them to shoot protestors so long as there is looting."

Trump is very much saying he believes looter should be shot.

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Balgair ◴[29 May 20 14:50 UTC] No.23350560[source]▶
To be clear here: Looting is not a capital offense. It's stuff. No TV/car/stereo is worth killing a person over. You have insurance for these things (hopefully).

Though laws vary widely in the US, in CA the punishment is about a year in county jail, give or take:

https://www.shouselaw.com/california-looting-laws.html

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1. andrew_ ◴[29 May 20 15:25 UTC] No.23351057{3}[source]▶
To be clear here: it's not just "stuff." In innumerable ways, the looting and rioting is resulting in loss of material items that cannot be replaced. Case in point: https://twitter.com/wakiyan7/status/1266350546249629699
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2. wetmore ◴[29 May 20 15:37 UTC] No.23351232[source]▶
Things that can't be replaced huh? Like human lives, say those of Floyd or the protesters being shot at by police?
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3. sangnoir ◴[29 May 20 15:49 UTC] No.23351400[source]▶
To be clearer still: Minnesota does not have stand your ground / castle doctrine laws - you can't protect "material items" with deadly force, no matter how valuable or irreplaceable. Instead, there is are Duty to retreat laws.
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4. margalabargala ◴[29 May 20 16:02 UTC] No.23351617[source]▶
That's horrible.

That's still not worth shooting people in the streets over.

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5. pjc50 ◴[29 May 20 16:22 UTC] No.23351960[source]▶
There are reports that some of the fires are set by provocateurs from the police. But this is impossible to prove either way.
6. TeaDrunk ◴[29 May 20 16:40 UTC] No.23352197[source]▶
1. This is horrible.

2. This could've been avoided if the original policeman was brought to justice.

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7. avgDev ◴[29 May 20 16:43 UTC] No.23352245[source]▶
I have recently looked into conceal carry, and many states DO NOT allow you to shoot someone who tells you they want your wallet. If they do not seem like a threat to your life, you are not allowed to use lethal force. Obviously, things can later be argued in court.
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9. eanzenberg ◴[29 May 20 17:10 UTC] No.23352608[source]▶
They are. Or do you want them dragged through the streets and hanged immediately?
10. Simulacra ◴[29 May 20 17:12 UTC] No.23352627[source]▶
Sorry I needed to include some references here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/arts/design/van-gogh-stol...

and

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/us/politics/klobuchar-min...

"During her own presidential campaign, Ms. Klobuchar faced continued protests, as well as some calls to drop out of the race from local black leaders in Minneapolis, after news reports found numerous faults in the prosecution of a black teenager named Myon Burrell while Ms. Klobuchar was the prosecutor."

11. andrew_ ◴[29 May 20 20:20 UTC] No.23355028[source]▶
So you chose to conflate the loss of irreplaceable Native American artifacts and historical records with the loss of a life, on a thread discussing material items?

I get that this is emotional, but that was not warranted. The rioters have destroyed the historical records of a Native American tribe and I'd like to think that they've suffered enough. The point was to show that it's not only cheap Target things being lost here.

12. andrew_ ◴[29 May 20 20:23 UTC] No.23355054[source]▶
I was not arguing in favor of shooting anyone. I was simply pointing out that dismissing the destruction in generality as "stuff" is in error and minimizing the effect. Don't lose objectivity in the face of tragedy.