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U.S. drone strike kills 30 pine nut farm workers in Afghanistan

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350 points tepidandroid | 2 comments | 19 Sep 19 16:51 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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wruza ◴[19 Sep 19 20:46 UTC] No.21020575[source]▶
Now imagine “U.S. drone strike kills 30 pine nut farm workers in France” and feel the difference (which is non-existent). Then it goes on tv and reads the list of this morning’s evil men who must be stopped.
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mieseratte ◴[20 Sep 19 08:36 UTC] No.21024454[source]▶
As much as I would love the US out of Afghanistan, there’s a war on over there. Yours is a disingenuous comparison.
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alpaca128 ◴[20 Sep 19 09:33 UTC] No.21024804[source]▶
A war where the US were totally forced to participate, of course, like always...
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kmjg88nvf8 ◴[20 Sep 19 11:24 UTC] No.21025373{3}[source]▶
So do you care about the civilians, or not? It seems possible US engagement saves more civilians than it kills. At least that is presumably the general idea.
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megous ◴[20 Sep 19 11:49 UTC] No.21025568{4}[source]▶
Unlikely. There were massacres during the Taliban rule outside of war, but it was at much lower scale than in the current war, and US only helps taliban grow by its intervention, it seems, if you look at the numbers of fighters.

It's not like killing a person with certain beliefs stops the beliefs from spreading.

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1. kmjg88nvf8 ◴[20 Sep 19 13:19 UTC] No.21026340{5}[source]▶
So you think it would be OK to live under Taliban rule? They didn't come into power by democratic elections, it seems.

Also, killing people with beliefs does stop beliefs from spreading. How much of Afghanistan do the Taliban control these days, anyway?

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2. megous ◴[22 Sep 19 02:06 UTC] No.21039185[source]▶
Quite a lot: https://thedefensepost.com/2019/05/01/afghanistan-resolute-s...

The idea was that "possible US engagement saves more civilians than it kills", and I was reacting to that, as it is very doubtful.

I didn't say it would be ok to live under Taliban. But there are other weird islamic countries, where I wouldn't want to live either. Do you propose US making war there, too?