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gcatalfamo ◴[] No.21023650[source]
This is how you create terrorists. What do you think the children and friends feelings towards the US will be from now on? People get radicalized for much less than that.
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alpb ◴[] No.21024258[source]
> This is how you create terrorists.

Um no, you are wrong.

_What USA does_ is terrorism. When you drop bombs on people out of nowhere, that's called terrorism. Sorry if you're an American but you've got some learning to do about the biggest terrorist organization in the world before calling others a terrorist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRbnPA3fd5U

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whiddershins ◴[] No.21024607[source]
Just stop. Absolutely stop equating these things.

The world as we know it, the progress in art, science, and humanities. The cures for polio, infant mortality and poverty dropping.

The website you are currently using to spread poison.

Those are all “_What USA does_”

Cut it out with this evil language.

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alpb ◴[] No.21024748[source]
I think the downvotes you got speak for itself. I am not even gonna bother answering.

Also USA has some of the highest infant mortality and poverty rates in the western world.

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1. jacobush ◴[] No.21025887[source]
What prevented World War 3 so far was Mutually Assured Desctruction. "M.A.D." is beginning to look a bit long in the tooth, but it's clinging on to life yet.
2. mad_tortoise ◴[] No.21025954[source]
Man stop drinking the kool-aid. You're lapping up your countries propoganda left, right and center. Apparently according to you, art, science and the humanities wouldn't exist if not for the USA? Get out of here, this is hackernews not 4chan.
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3. saiya-jin ◴[] No.21026029[source]
> It’s so fashionable to hate America, that must make it true.

Let's be honest here, US is trying hard for last 15 years to be the most hated country anywhere, ever.

Millions of innocent civilians killed based on outright lies by US president in Iraq 2nd war (they were so glaringly obvious on UN meeting when GWB presented them that Germany and France outright rejected joining. UK couldn't care less). The consequences are felt across half of Asia and whole Europe till these days. Please tell me, what justice system in US does to a person who kills innocents without any reason? Nothing good. And if you kill millions? Good pension and CIA protection for rest of your life apparently. Plus Afghanistan, yet another battlefield where mighty US army is losing a battle with guys with AKs.

Another topic is online privacy, US could have been champion of freedom, and initially it was, but we had Snowden and stuff ain't better since then. That's plain amoral. Currently US can't claim much moral superiority over China for outsiders, like it or not.

I ain't even touching the topic of current US president because that would be for a separate thread.

To like US and its role in current politics these days requires super strong tint on ones pink glasses. Most of the world is kind of fed up and just wants to be left alone, not invaded for US version of 'freedom', oil, strategic place or whatever.

This is real world out there, where 95% of the mankind lives.

4. whiddershins ◴[] No.21026075[source]
It’s hard to make art when your country is being torn to shreds by war.

How much art was coming out of East Germany under the Soviet Union?

What other nation is deterring constant military expansion of China and Russia?

How many nations are confronting IS?

You are either naive or destructive.

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5. pnako ◴[] No.21026267{3}[source]
IS was created after the US destroyed Iraq, based on false evidence (just like America invaded Afghanistan based on false reasons). The damage is done, but why persist? What do you expect to happen exactly?

In fact Russia consolidated its influence and alliances in the middle east just by exploiting American mistakes there.

Just leave. It would be a hugely popular move everywhere: among the left, the right, veterans, other countries, etc. So why not do it?