It's been an extraordinarily fast takeover and I'd really like to know exactly what happened those 5 or so years ago to precipitate this seismic shift.
It's been an extraordinarily fast takeover and I'd really like to know exactly what happened those 5 or so years ago to precipitate this seismic shift.
I can say though that I've moved further to the left as I've gotten older, from a libertarian tech-stereotype when I was younger, and in large part it has been from seeing the conservative half of american slide slowly further into insanity and horribleness, seemingly driven by fox news, at least among family.
I think you're mistaking how extreme their political beliefs are with how extremely devoted to their political beliefs they are. Most of these people aren't 'far left' they're just very, very committed to their center/center-left politics.
>This simplistic tribalistic nonsense is not how you run a society.
Ironically it seems like you two are being just as tribalistic as the people you complain about. Maybe something to think about.
You might be right. I just don't know what to do about political discussion these days. The punchline is, in case you didn't see any other posts by me, is that I've never not been on the left.
In my defence I'll address a few points. The cannabis and DACA issues were not contemporaneous with the president's election, so exclude those. Trump promised, disingenuously, "bigger, better" healthcare. The Muslim thing was not known at the time. Actually, none of your points stick.
But I'll concede anyway. Yes, elections have real-world consequences. But the vibe I got from the comment I replied to - of valley girls crying into their pumpkin spice lattes - was valid. They were mourning their team losing. This is a deathly trap we fall into these days politics-wise. It's a team sport and you will never forsake "your" team. I picked up a few traces of that loyalty from your examples, btw.
> It's not exactly like their team lost the superbowl
I'd counter that it is exactly like their team lost, or won, the superbowl
Going through all that's required to get a green card and then have the government take that away from me as if it's nothing, and for such a stupid reason? I would cry too.
Trump, during the campaign, said he would immediately terminate DACA if elected, and also (by the end) had reversed his earlier position of leaving marijuana legalization up to the states, in favor of reinforcing prohibition. So, both were active issues in the election.
> Trump promised, disingenuously, "bigger, better" healthcare.
With no actual content except the repeal of the ACA.
> The Muslim thing was not known at the time
The Muslim ban was one of the earliest and most frequently repeated campaign promises, though the exact wording changed over time. It was not a policy preference that was out of the public awareness at the time of the election.
I'm having a really hard time taking this at face value.
valley girls crying into their pumpkin spice lattes
'Valley girls' refers to the San Fernando valley in Southern California, as (stereotypically) depicted on TV shows like 'The OC' - shallow fashionistas primarily concerned with gossip and social status. It's specifically a Southern California Thing and has never ever been associated with Silicon Valley.
Perhaps your social observation skills aren't as keen as you imagine them to be?
It's not leftism so much as people who are committed to political orthodoxy versus people who don't care about it. Trump eschewed political orthodoxy, and still got elected, and that was very scary for a lot of people. (In contrast, I lean left, but come from a country where bombs go off after one side loses an election, so I found it very hard to get worked up about Trump.)
I fail to understand how "crying Donald J Trump is the president of the United States" equals being an "insane insufferable far left crazy." Even if you mostly agree with him politically, you may still be very upset about someone who boasted about sexually assaulting women representing you/your political beliefs. That's just one example.